Can the moderator stop the thread.. having such a
public negotiation
is not good.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* Srikanth Ramakrishnan <srik.ramk(a)wikimedia.in>
*To:* India public list <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
*Sent:* Wednesday, 25 September 2013 6:15 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FW: Re: Few concerns
Hi,
The EC has decided to have a conference call tomorrow night to discuss
the matter.
WE shall keep you updated on the same.
Sent from the touchscreen equivalent of a Nokia 1100, pardon the sender.
--
Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
Treasurer.
On Sep 25, 2013 4:57 PM, "ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)"
<viswaprabha(a)gmail.com <mailto:viswaprabha@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear all,
To set right the facts straight, please let me explicitly state
the following for the information of you all:
1. I have been using internet and e-mail systems since 1994-1995.
Since then until now, *not even once*, I have used the freedom to
send a mail to any person or lists in a way not disclosing my
singular and true identity.
2. I have not sent any mails to this or any other lists as 'Zakas'
or whatever names. Usually I send very few and only absolutely
necessary mails to Wikimedia lists (except perhaps for
ml-community). Even after becoming an EC member, I have always
restrained to limit my mails as we have assigned specific EC
members for public relations and communications. That is, I deem
that shouldering the responsibility of an EC member, one is
further constrained to write (even personal) mails to the lists as
much as one would like to.
3. Abiding the standard code of conduct to its fullest meaning, I
have not communicated, disclosed or discussed any such matters
that should be dealt within or by the EC under the purview of its
collective responsibility to any undue third parties. I have also
not prompted anyone else either to act on his own or as a proxy to
carry out any missions.
I must also state it clear and loud that, as a person, I have no
monitory, social or political interests that conflict with my
assumed responsibilities within the EC or chapter. In being or
serving as a chapter member (or as its extended functionary), my
sole aim is to upkeep the mission and motto of Wikipedia and to
effectively utilize the opportunities and resources it allows and
provides for the betterment of the community. Therefore, _I DO NOT
NEED TO ENGAGE IN ANY CLANDESTINE OR UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES WHILE
BEING AN EC MEMBER OR CHAPTER MEMBER!_
Please allow me to write these rather silly lines more on a list
which I always consider serious and subject-worthy. My apologies
for the same in advance.
Dear Pradeep,
Is just withdrawing an accusation of that degree enough?
I STRONGLY DEMAND AN OUTRIGHT APOLOGY FROM YOU, THROUGH THIS VERY
MAILING LIST, as this could heavily damage my reputation and
stature henceforth both at a personal capacity as well as a
responsible member of the current WMIN EC.
I must also remind you that either your criminology and
cyber-investigation lessons were quite bad, or your 'teachers'
were quite unprepared. Or perhaps, you did not carry out your
overnight homework exercises carefully.
It is quite funny how you could have arrived such laughable
conclusions considering the following reasons:
1. Do I really call 'Moksh' as 'Moksha'? I don't think so. Did
SOMEONE ELSE tell you so? Then, could it be that you were taken
for a ride by those someone else?
2. Now, if someone else did not tell this (non-fact), how did you
come to know of such a peculiar 'disorder' that I seem to have?
Did we even talk to each other after a face-to-face (and very
friendly) meet on 3rd of May 2012 (at Kerala Sahitya Academy
compound, Thrissur)? Have we even ever spoke through phone or any
other voice channels (or even mails)? Except for 3rd May 2012, Do
I even know you personally? And then, did I even knew a person
called 'Moksh' (or 'Moksha'), worthy of a subject of interest
until the recent elections (or at the least, until I actually got
involved with the chapter business last October)?
3. The next possibility is that I could have possibly written his
name as 'Moksha' somewhere in a mail list or wiki page. Can you
EVER SHOW ANY PAGE OR EVEN PRIVATE MAIL where I have used the term
'Moksha'?
So, having done a serious wrong, I demand you to immediately offer
your apologies (to me as well as the list for having misled them,)
right through this mailing list!
With the above statements and demand,
I remain.
-Viswanathan Prabhakaran
(User:Viswaprabha)
Member,
Executive Committee,
Wikimedia India Chapter.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Pradeep Mohandas
<prad2609(a)yahoo.com <mailto:prad2609@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Hi,
I seem to have sent it to Viswa alone. Resenting.
Pradeep
Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From: * Pradeep Mohandas <prad2609(a)yahoo.com
<mailto:prad2609@yahoo.com>>;
*To: * viswaprabha(a)gmail.com <mailto:viswaprabha@gmail.com>
<viswaprabha(a)gmail.com <mailto:viswaprabha@gmail.com>>;
*Subject: * Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Few concerns
*Sent: * Wed, Sep 25, 2013 4:44:01 AM
Hi Vishwa,
I am happy that this is now publicly recorded. I withdraw my
accusation forthwith.
I would also like to step down from the position of the GLAM
SIG chair forthwith. I am happy to help in GLAM related
activities where ever needed. I think others will do more
justice to this position as I have been able to.
In addition, I have found out now that my employee, State Bank
of India, with which the Chapter maintains a bank account does
not allow me to hold this position as a point of conflict of
interest. I am not allowed to be on the Executive or head
committees within a non profit which has a relationship with
the Bank.
Warm regards,
Pradeep Mohandas
Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From: * ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) <viswaprabha(a)gmail.com
<mailto:viswaprabha@gmail.com>>;
*To: * Pradeep Mohandas <prad2609(a)yahoo.com
<mailto:prad2609@yahoo.com>>; Wikimedia India Community list
<wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>>;
*Subject: * Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Few concerns
*Sent: * Wed, Sep 25, 2013 4:12:21 AM
Did I read and understand that absolutely correctly!
If so, this is a huge accusal!
Please come to your senses before doing such horrendous
accusations!
I would never (or am or will be planning) to send any mail
messages to ANY public (or private) lists other than from my
own proven identities!!! TAKE IT FOR GRANTED!
Indeed, your baseless and mean assumption calls for severe
actions!
-Viswam
User:Viswaprabha
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Pradeep Mohandas
<prad2609(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
hi,
this is with reference to this email -
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2013-September/010415…,
sent by "Zakaas Zakaas". the text of the email was
scrubbed as HTML. The content of the text is here -
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20130915/…
reproduced
below:
"While the new ECs are still deciding the new office bearers, there are
some observations which are of serious concern. It is known fact that Karthik(secratory)
is employee of Moksha(president) and Pranav is employee/consultant to Moksha</p>
In the true spirit of wikipedia, where transparancy is atmost important, and
conflict of interests are taken seriously, have these<br />people given any
disclaimer about this information (employee, employer relationship) in advancIt will be
nice to know the concern people stand regarding this matter.
It is interesting to note that while the author asks for
transparency, he is not transparent himself. Let us assume
that the alias is taken for the sake of revealing this
"truth". Unfortunately, just using the alias is
insufficient, in my opinion. One must also be able to mask
one's partiality to the language one uses for the mask to
be complete.
In this case, I can easily identify the author as
Viswaprabha. He's the only person I know of who calls
Moksh Moksha.
Pradeep Mohandas
How Pradeep uses email? -
http://goo.gl/6v1I9
_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences
visit
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences
visit
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l