Interesting to note that the article mentions Sunil and Pranesh of the Centre for Internet and Society ...
On 08/12/2011, Achal Prabhala aprabhala@gmail.com wrote:
A useful update on the situation:
http://blogs.outlookindia.com/default.aspx?ddm=10&pid=2665
On Wednesday 07 December 2011 10:36 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote:
Vickram, while I agree with you my point was something else. What I meant to say was that if you add a source, you make your point, you're being neutral, and thus what you're doing is factually correct.
On 07/12/2011, Vickram Crishnavvcrishna@radiophony.com wrote:
Exactly my point. I suspect that the addition of a line referring to the current controversy, where the hashtag #IdiotKapilSibal has been trending, and to quote some of the numbers over time during this crisis, would not be out of place.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:29 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucherian@gmail.comwrote:
Adding "Kapil Sibal is an idiot" on the Wikipedia article is vandalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kapil_Sibal&action=historysubm...
Addling "verifiable facts" is acceptable ( including controversies and criticism"
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kapil_Sibal&action=historysubm...
Hope I clarified the difference.
Regards Tinu Cherian
P.S. On a lighter note, Please feel to add "Kapil Sibal is an idiot" , if you can provide/prove that with "Verifiable references" from "Reliable Sources" :)
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcrishna@radiophony.comwrote:
Oh, the mention of 'idiot' on that page is vandalism (no, I haven't done it - yet)? I thought we had a very interesting discussion about current affairs at WikiConf where there seemed to be a consensus that presenting every side of the picture is important.
Is reporting the fact that major websites like Kafila.org and literally hundreds or thousands of Twitter users are tweeting the hashtag #IdiotKapilSibal wrong, in that case?
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, CherianTinu Abraham< tinucherian@gmail.com> wrote:
On a related note, this has appeared on *The Economic Times* :
" Five reasons why India can't censor the Internet"
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/five-reasons-why-india-can...
"*Yes, Internet content has the permanence and public-impact potential that a phone call does not, but equally, it lends itself brilliantly to self-regulation. *
*3. Peer review works: Wikipedia is the best example. Who could have imagined that a user-created encyclopedia could be so objective, and comprehensive? Yes, anyone can go in and edit anything (barring entries like "Kapil Sibal", which have been locked due to vandalism!). *
*If you make an inappropriate change, someone will come in and correct it.* "
Regards Tinu Cherian
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan< parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is basically restriction of freedom of expression and it will > hurt Wikipedia much more than it hurts Twitter or Facebook. > > On 07/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanansrik.lak@gmail.com wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:06, Achal Prabhalaaprabhala@gmail.com > wrote: >>> fyi >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal >>> Wants > to >>> Censor >>> social >>> Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:02:10 +0530 >>> From: Achal Prabhalaaprabhala@gmail.com >>> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List< >>> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>> >> I just want to write that there was a community member who seemed to > be of >> the notion ImageFilter is the technical fix for what Kapil Sibal is >> proposing(without probably understanding / knowing much) and > connecting the >> two distinct things. Yes Sibal showed some images as examples for >> his >> support, but what Sibal means is much more and prescreening of every > byte >> of user generated content. Please tell that member that linking up 2 >> different things is not a good idea. ImageFilter needs to be > discussed with >> its own merits / demerits and this thing that Sibal proposes means > much >> more than images. >> >> If at all the legislation comes and is being enforced, I think > Wikimedia >> projects are better equipped *technically* than other social media > sites >> cited to support the local laws(so that we need not be banned if >> that > goes >> to that extreme) with a combination of ImageFilter / >> FlaggedRevisions > and >> some more customizations, but thats not where we would like to go. >> Community is already not so strong and needs support, there is so > much work >> to do in increasing content, censorship will cripple Indian >> community > if >> such a thing happens. >> >> There are many questions that the communities need to decide as to > submit >> to Indian laws (if at all they come through) and I hope the >> situation > does >> not arise for us to take those tough calls. >> >> PS : I would not like to post / join foundation-l myself since it >> has > high >> SNR IMO. >> >> -- >> Regards >> Srikanth.L >> > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > Regards, > Srikanth Ramakrishnan. > Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >
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