hi,
My message is inline.
Pradeep Mohandas
How Pradeep uses email? -
http://goo.gl/6v1I9
On Wednesday, 25 September 2013 5:15 PM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)
<viswaprabha(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all,
To set right the facts straight, please let me explicitly state the following for the
information of you all:
1.
I have been using internet and e-mail systems since 1994-1995. Since then until now, not
even once, I have used the freedom to send a mail to any person or lists in a way not
disclosing my singular and true identity.
2. I
have not sent any mails to this or any other lists as 'Zakas' or
whatever names. Usually I send very few and only absolutely necessary mails to
Wikimedia lists (except perhaps for ml-community). Even after becoming
an EC member, I have always restrained to limit my mails as we have
assigned specific EC members for public relations and communications.
That is, I deem that shouldering the responsibility of an EC member, one
is further constrained to write (even personal) mails to the lists as
much as one would like to.
3. Abiding the standard code of
conduct to its fullest meaning, I have not communicated, disclosed or discussed any such
matters that
should be dealt within or by the EC under the purview of its collective
responsibility to any undue third parties. I have also not prompted
anyone else either to act on his own or as a proxy to carry out any missions.
I must also state it clear and loud that,
as a person, I have no monitory, social or political interests that
conflict with my assumed responsibilities within the EC or chapter. In
being or serving as a chapter member (or as its extended functionary),
my sole aim is to upkeep the mission and motto of Wikipedia and to
effectively utilize the opportunities and resources it allows and
provides for the betterment of the community. Therefore, I DO NOT NEED TO ENGAGE IN ANY
CLANDESTINE OR UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES WHILE BEING AN EC MEMBER OR CHAPTER MEMBER!
Please allow me to write these rather silly lines more on a list which I always consider
serious and subject-worthy. My apologies for the same in advance.
Dear Pradeep,
Is just withdrawing an accusation of that degree enough?
I STRONGLY DEMAND AN OUTRIGHT APOLOGY FROM YOU, THROUGH THIS VERY MAILING LIST, as this
could heavily damage my reputation and stature henceforth both at a personal capacity as
well as a responsible member of the
current WMIN EC.
**Pradeep**
> Dear Vishwaprabha,
I think till this point the points you raised are valid. I had already in an email
previous to this withdrawn my statement. You have asked that I apologise since you did not
deem this retraction sufficient. I think that this is fair. I even grant you the freedom
to shout, in asking for your apology.
However, I deem the statements from hereon as a hit below the belt of an opponent who has
already raised the white flag. This does not become you as an Executive Member of the
Wikimedia India Chapter.
I wish I had tried out the methods you suggest below or at least had the guidance of
someone who had access to these methods. My email, which I see as rather stupid in
hindsight, was rather written without giving any thought whatsoever.
I know that this email has shown me in poor light on this mailing list. I cannot take back
my words which I have written. I offered you an unconditional apology, which is all that I
could do under the circumstances.
I only wish to place on record that I am disappointed in this following section of the
email that you have sent me. In this section you conclude that I am a fool, stupid,
ignorant and cannot think on my own two feet. Although you do not state this openly it is,
in my opinion, implied. For this, I do not ask you for an apology, I only ask that you
leave me alone and that we part ways amicably.
warm regards and good luck in all your endeavours on Wikimedia and off it.
Pradeep Mohandas
**end of Pradeep's emails**
I must also remind you that either your
criminology and cyber-investigation lessons were quite bad, or your
'teachers' were quite unprepared. Or perhaps, you did not carry out your overnight
homework exercises carefully.
It is quite funny how you could have arrived such laughable conclusions considering the
following reasons:
1. Do I really call 'Moksh' as 'Moksha'? I don't think so. Did SOMEONE
ELSE tell you so? Then, could it be that you were taken for a ride by those someone else?
2. Now, if someone else did not tell this (non-fact), how did you come to
know of such a peculiar 'disorder' that I seem to have? Did we even talk to each
other after a face-to-face (and very friendly) meet on 3rd of
May 2012 (at Kerala Sahitya Academy compound, Thrissur)? Have we even
ever spoke through phone or any other voice channels (or even mails)?
Except for 3rd May 2012, Do I even know you personally? And then, did I even knew a person
called 'Moksh' (or 'Moksha'), worthy of a subject of interest until the
recent elections (or at the least, until I actually got involved with the chapter
business last October)?
3. The next possibility is that I could have possibly written his name as 'Moksha'
somewhere in a mail list or wiki page. Can you EVER SHOW ANY PAGE OR EVEN PRIVATE MAIL
where I have used the term 'Moksha'?
So, having done a serious wrong, I demand you to immediately offer your
apologies (to me as well as the list for having misled them,) right through this mailing
list!
With the above statements and demand,
I remain.
-Viswanathan Prabhakaran
(User:Viswaprabha)
Member,
Executive Committee,
Wikimedia India Chapter.