Categories have not been widely (or correctly) used on our wiki, and I want to start sorting this out. Following the wiki instructions I have created the first category that I wanted, but I'm puzzled about the category links created on the pages. The wiki states: <quote> These links do not appear at the location where you inserted the tag, but at the page margin in a fixed place, depending on the skin (the bottom for MonoBook, the upper right corner for Standard). </quote>
I find that, putting the category statement at the end of the page, I actually see "Category: Getting Started" at the place I entered it. What's more, 'Getting Started' is red, like an un-created page, although clicking on it does take me to the category's listing.
Further on in the wiki it says to add a colon, as
[[:Category:Getting Started]]
but that results in the whole statement turning into a red link.
What do I need to do to correct this?
Anne
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 19:08, Anne Wilson annew@kde.org wrote:
I find that, putting the category statement at the end of the page, I actually see "Category: Getting Started" at the place I entered it. What's more, 'Getting Started' is red, like an un-created page, although clicking on it does take me to the category's listing.
That's strange, and shouldn't happen if the wiki's configured correctly. I've seen this happen when people try to create category links using a language for namespaces that the wiki isn't configured for (e.g. "Catégorie" if the wiki isn't configure for French), but English should always work.
Is this a public wiki?
Further on in the wiki it says to add a colon, as
[[:Category:Getting Started]]
but that results in the whole statement turning into a red link.
Yes, this syntax is intended for when you're trying to link to a category page on a given wiki page, rather than putting that wiki page into the category.
What do I need to do to correct this?
Anne
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 19:20, Schneelocke schneelocke@gmail.com wrote:
Is this a public wiki?
Nevermind, I just took a look at http://userbase.kde.org . :)
The category link is actually working correctly here. The link appears in red as the category *page* itself has not been created yet (this is separate from there being pages *in* that category); furthermore, the category link appears unstyled at the bottom of the wiki page as the skin you're using doesn't seem to apply any style to it.
(The relevant CSS class is called "catlinks".)
On Sunday 22 November 2009 18:28:02 Schneelocke wrote:
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 19:20, Schneelocke schneelocke@gmail.com wrote:
Is this a public wiki?
Thanks for answering, Schnee
Nevermind, I just took a look at http://userbase.kde.org . :)
The category link is actually working correctly here. The link appears in red as the category *page* itself has not been created yet (this is separate from there being pages *in* that category);
So when I click on it, I see a page that lists all the pages in the category, with an empty edit panel. What is it expecting me to add to that page? Is there some documentation other than Help:Category? I'm still studying that, but so far haven't found anything that explains this. I thought it was just the dynamically created list.
furthermore, the category link appears unstyled at the bottom of the wiki page as the skin you're using doesn't seem to apply any style to it.
(The relevant CSS class is called "catlinks".)
I'll talk to a php guy about that, thanks.
Anne
All, I dont know if I have correctly unterdood. From my point of view, what you need is learning how categories work. If I werw you I would navigate on the wikipedia. hugs
2009/11/23 Anne Wilson annew@kde.org
On Sunday 22 November 2009 18:28:02 Schneelocke wrote:
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 19:20, Schneelocke schneelocke@gmail.com
wrote:
Is this a public wiki?
Thanks for answering, Schnee
Nevermind, I just took a look at http://userbase.kde.org . :)
The category link is actually working correctly here. The link appears in red as the category *page* itself has not been created yet (this is separate from there being pages *in* that category);
So when I click on it, I see a page that lists all the pages in the category, with an empty edit panel. What is it expecting me to add to that page? Is there some documentation other than Help:Category? I'm still studying that, but so far haven't found anything that explains this. I thought it was just the dynamically created list.
furthermore, the category link appears unstyled at the bottom of the wiki page as the skin you're using doesn't seem to apply any style to it.
(The relevant CSS class is called "catlinks".)
I'll talk to a php guy about that, thanks.
Anne
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Hello Anne,
Thanks for answering, Schnee
You're quite welcome!
So when I click on it, I see a page that lists all the pages in the category, with an empty edit panel. What is it expecting me to add to that page? Is there some documentation other than Help:Category? I'm still studying that, but so far haven't found anything that explains this. I thought it was just the dynamically created list.
Categories are dynamically created lists, yes, but they're still pages as well, and you can add content to them just like you would to any other page.
For example, take Category:Mathematics on the English Wikipedia[1]; there is a list of sub-categories on that page, as well as a list of articles, but there's also some text above that, a link to the Mathematics portal and a link to the Wikimedia Commons for media files related to mathematics, and - last not least - a number of category links for categories that the Mathematics category is a sub-category of, such as Category:Logic, Category:Structure and others.
What you put on a category page is really up to you, but making a category part of another category is pretty standard, I think, and helps establish a hierarchy of categories.
I'm not sure if there's any further documentation, but the English Wikipedia's project page on categorization[2] might be helpful, although chances are parts of it will be specific to Wikipedia.
1. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Category%3AMathematics 2. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia%3ACategorization
On Monday 23 November 2009 18:01:38 Schneelocke wrote:
Hello Anne,
Thanks for answering, Schnee
You're quite welcome!
So when I click on it, I see a page that lists all the pages in the category, with an empty edit panel. What is it expecting me to add to that page? Is there some documentation other than Help:Category? I'm still studying that, but so far haven't found anything that explains this. I thought it was just the dynamically created list.
Categories are dynamically created lists, yes, but they're still pages as well, and you can add content to them just like you would to any other page.
For example, take Category:Mathematics on the English Wikipedia[1]; there is a list of sub-categories on that page, as well as a list of articles, but there's also some text above that, a link to the Mathematics portal and a link to the Wikimedia Commons for media files related to mathematics, and - last not least - a number of category links for categories that the Mathematics category is a sub-category of, such as Category:Logic, Category:Structure and others.
What you put on a category page is really up to you, but making a category part of another category is pretty standard, I think, and helps establish a hierarchy of categories.
I'm not sure if there's any further documentation, but the English Wikipedia's project page on categorization[2] might be helpful, although chances are parts of it will be specific to Wikipedia.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia%3ACategorization
Thanks for all that. It's going to be very useful, I think. For the moment I've just added a very short description of the intention of that category. I'll add more information when either reading more docs prompts, or when my attempts at setting logical categories develop further. Now I know there is no specific purpose there, I can develop it as seems best at the time.
Thanks again
Anne
Hello Anne,
Thanks for all that. It's going to be very useful, I think. For the moment I've just added a very short description of the intention of that category. I'll add more information when either reading more docs prompts, or when my attempts at setting logical categories develop further. Now I know there is no specific purpose there, I can develop it as seems best at the time.
Thanks again
You're very welcome!
This is actually correct.
If you click on the red category, it gives you the option of explaining the category. I usually add:
==Usage== This category is for articles relating to ...
It also allows you to create sub-categories. On a category "quadrunner" category page put:
==Usage== This category is for articles relating to quadrunners.
[[category:vehicle]]
This puts the category "quadrunner" as a sub-category of the category "vehicle". This is very useful in my opinion.
- Bri
Anne Wilson wrote:
...I find that, putting the category statement at the end of the page, I actually see "Category: Getting Started" at the place I entered it. What's more, 'Getting Started' is red, like an un-created page, although clicking on it does take me to the category's listing.
Further on in the wiki it says to add a colon, as
[[:Category:Getting Started]]
but that results in the whole statement turning into a red link.
What do I need to do to correct this?
Anne
On Tuesday 24 November 2009 01:45:41 Bri wrote:
This is actually correct.
If you click on the red category, it gives you the option of explaining the category. I usually add:
==Usage== This category is for articles relating to ...
It also allows you to create sub-categories. On a category "quadrunner" category page put:
==Usage== This category is for articles relating to quadrunners.
[[category:vehicle]]
This puts the category "quadrunner" as a sub-category of the category "vehicle". This is very useful in my opinion.
Thanks for the tip. I'm sure it will be useful
Anne
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