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Jared Nyland

31 Mar 2005 31 Mar '05

7:05 a.m.

I was wondering if the best way to prevent editing conflicts is to use the In Use notice that I have found or is there a global setting for this somewhere that locks the page while someone is editing? Thanks in advance Jared

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Lee Daniel Crocker

31 Mar 31 Mar

7:53 a.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] Editing conflicts question

On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 22:05 -0700, Jared Nyland wrote:

I was wondering if the best way to prevent editing conflicts is to use the In Use notice that I have found or is there a global setting for this somewhere that locks the page while someone is editing?

Edit locking isn't practical over a stateless protocol like HTTP. Theoretically, the number of edit conflicts should be roughly proportional to the number pages divided by the number of active users, which should change over time, so even if you made some attempt to curb them the success of that attempt would vary as well. -- Lee Daniel Crocker <lee(a)piclab.com> <http://www.piclab.com/lee/> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/>

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Rowan Collins

2:32 p.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] Editing conflicts question

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:05:37 -0700, Jared Nyland <jnyland(a)novell.com> wrote:

I was wondering if the best way to prevent editing conflicts is to use the In Use notice that I have found or is there a global setting for this somewhere that locks the page while someone is editing?

I thought I'd quickly note that, assuming the server in question has a compatible "diff3" utility installed, MediaWiki should use that to avoid an awful lot of edit conflicts ever being seen by users. That is, if two users edit different parts of the same page, the software will silently accept both edits and merge the changes as though they were made one after the other. You may have realised that already, but some people assume they've simply been lucky not to see the conflict screen lately. :) -- Rowan Collins BSc [IMSoP]

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Steven Dick

6:59 p.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] Editing conflicts question

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:32:55 +0100, Rowan Collins

I thought I'd quickly note that, assuming the server in question has a compatible "diff3" utility installed

[...] Note also that if you do NOT have a suitable diff3, there is a chance that it will just blank the page instead. I had to edit the config files to point mediawiki at gnu diff3 instead of the sun diff3, for instance. It would be nice if there was a config style install test for that sort of thing

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Rowan Collins

8:42 p.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] Editing conflicts question

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:59:00 -0500, Steven Dick <kg4ydw(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Note also that if you do NOT have a suitable diff3, there is a chance that it will just blank the page instead.

To be clear, this is the case if the installer detects a 'diff3' program, but it is not compatible with the features required by MediaWiki.

I had to edit the config files to point mediawiki at gnu diff3 instead of the sun diff3, for instance. It would be nice if there was a config style install test for that sort of thing

This is filed as bug 619 [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=619]. The installer should ideally run a test with the diff3 util it finds, and warn that it hasn't set it if it isn't going to work correctly. [Mentionning, I guess, that users should look for the GNU version] -- Rowan Collins BSc [IMSoP]

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