From: "Scheid, Bernhard" Bernhard.Scheid@oeaw.ac.at
For unknown reasons, google sometimes refers to my wiki-pages by using https instead of http. The result is that the page is displayed, but without css. Any advice how to prevent this?
I doubt Google is making this up.
That means that there are links out there that refer to your site with https. Hunt them down and kill them.
Otherwise, if you have control of your server, you can simply enable https as well as http. It isn't terribly difficult.
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Just use .htaccess to rewrite incoming https to http and send a 301 back. Tom
From: "Scheid, Bernhard" Bernhard.Scheid@oeaw.ac.at
For unknown reasons, google sometimes refers to my wiki-pages by using https instead of http. The result is that the page is displayed, but without css. Any advice how to prevent this?
I doubt Google is making this up.
That means that there are links out there that refer to your site with https. Hunt them down and kill them.
Otherwise, if you have control of your server, you can simply enable https as well as http. It isn't terribly difficult.
:::: I suggest you locate your hot tub outside your house, so it won't do too much damage if it catches fire or explodes. First you decide which direction your hot tub should face for maximum solar energy. After much trial and error, I have found that the best direction for a hot tub to face is up. -- Dave Barry :::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op ::::
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Why do that when you can just use a redirect in an apache vhost accept the connection on http and redirect it to https. If the person is already using vhosts that is very easy to implement
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Tom Hutchison tom@hutch4.us wrote:
Just use .htaccess to rewrite incoming https to http and send a 301 back. Tom
From: "Scheid, Bernhard" Bernhard.Scheid@oeaw.ac.at
For unknown reasons, google sometimes refers to my wiki-pages by using
https instead of http. The result is that the page is displayed, but without css. Any advice how to prevent this?
I doubt Google is making this up.
That means that there are links out there that refer to your site with https. Hunt them down and kill them.
Otherwise, if you have control of your server, you can simply enable https as well as http. It isn't terribly difficult.
:::: I suggest you locate your hot tub outside your house, so it won't do too much damage if it catches fire or explodes. First you decide which direction your hot tub should face for maximum solar energy. After much trial and error, I have found that the best direction for a hot tub to face is up. -- Dave Barry :::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op ::::
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------ Original Message ------ From: "Jonathan Aquilina" eagles051387@gmail.com To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: 3/18/2014 2:34:47 AM Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] https
Why do that when you can just use a redirect in an apache vhost accept the connection on http and redirect it to https. If the person is already using vhosts that is very easy to implement
??? Not addressing the real problem. The original question was...
From: "Scheid, Bernhard" Bernhard.Scheid@oeaw.ac.at
For unknown reasons, google sometimes refers to my wiki-pages by using https instead of http. The result is that the page is displayed, but without css. Any advice how to prevent this?
There was no mention of his setup, host he was using, if he had a SSL cert, if no SSL cert (host misconfiguration?), https login only, etc... how many links? 5 or 50.
Did you set $wgServer ? Canonicals should always point to what you prefer in indexing, http or https? Are both the https and http page versions both indexed? Double indexing same content hurts Google rankings. Same as http://www vs. http:// would.
Google should not index https unless https is available. So, Mark was long term best suggestion of finding and updating the links to https. Pretty easy to find who is linking to the pages. 50 links? If there are a lot, bigger issue.
I would say at this point, Bernhard, we need more information.
Tom
Thank all who took care of the topic. In the moment I am waiting for a response by the server admin. Will be back as soon as I know more myself...
Bernhard
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Tom Hutchison Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. März 2014 15:20 An: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Betreff: Re: [MediaWiki-l] https
------ Original Message ------ From: "Jonathan Aquilina" eagles051387@gmail.com To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: 3/18/2014 2:34:47 AM Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] https
Why do that when you can just use a redirect in an apache vhost accept the connection on http and redirect it to https. If the person is already using vhosts that is very easy to implement
??? Not addressing the real problem. The original question was...
From: "Scheid, Bernhard" Bernhard.Scheid@oeaw.ac.at > > For unknown reasons, google sometimes refers to my wiki-pages by using >https instead of http. The result is that the page is displayed, but >without css. Any advice how to prevent this?
There was no mention of his setup, host he was using, if he had a SSL cert, if no SSL cert (host misconfiguration?), https login only, etc... how many links? 5 or 50.
Did you set $wgServer ? Canonicals should always point to what you prefer in indexing, http or https? Are both the https and http page versions both indexed? Double indexing same content hurts Google rankings. Same as http://www vs. http:// would.
Google should not index https unless https is available. So, Mark was long term best suggestion of finding and updating the links to https. Pretty easy to find who is linking to the pages. 50 links? If there are a lot, bigger issue.
I would say at this point, Bernhard, we need more information.
Tom
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I must confess that I do not know how to "hunt down" and kill the https-Links. There is no other reasonable explanation than that they are created by my own system (either Wiki or internal Google search), but I do not see where.
If you want to check it out, just go to http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/an/ and ask for "Buddha" in the search box. You will see that among the results, there are several https links
This has not been the case three years ago when I started the Wiki-version of this page.
As to why I am using Google Custom search, the main reason is that I use additional code elements for hyphenation that are not understood by the wiki search. But apart from that, I am not too happy with Wiki search at all. But this is another story....
Bernhard
________________________________________ Von: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org]" im Auftrag von "Tom Hutchison [tom@hutch4.us] Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. März 2014 15:19 An: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Betreff: Re: [MediaWiki-l] https
------ Original Message ------ From: "Jonathan Aquilina" eagles051387@gmail.com To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: 3/18/2014 2:34:47 AM Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] https
Why do that when you can just use a redirect in an apache vhost accept the connection on http and redirect it to https. If the person is already using vhosts that is very easy to implement
??? Not addressing the real problem. The original question was...
From: "Scheid, Bernhard" Bernhard.Scheid@oeaw.ac.at
For unknown reasons, google sometimes refers to my wiki-pages by using https instead of http. The result is that the page is displayed, but without css. Any advice how to prevent this?
There was no mention of his setup, host he was using, if he had a SSL cert, if no SSL cert (host misconfiguration?), https login only, etc... how many links? 5 or 50.
Did you set $wgServer ? Canonicals should always point to what you prefer in indexing, http or https? Are both the https and http page versions both indexed? Double indexing same content hurts Google rankings. Same as http://www vs. http:// would.
Google should not index https unless https is available. So, Mark was long term best suggestion of finding and updating the links to https. Pretty easy to find who is linking to the pages. 50 links? If there are a lot, bigger issue.
I would say at this point, Bernhard, we need more information.
Tom
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If you want to check it out, just go to http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/an/ and ask for "Buddha" in the search box. You will see that among the results, there are several https links
Well, the SSL cert question is answered. Looks like you are on a University server in a subfolder so I would imagine they must have a SSL cert for the main domain. Also looks like you are on a wiki farm. http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/ takes you to a landing page of other wikis.
How much control of the site do you have? Are you sharing one installation? How did you install your own custom skin?
Tom
The other wikis are also mine. The rel_jap/an.. Wiki is on a special server, separate from the others, which is faster. I did the wiki setup etc. by myself and can edit the LocalSettings.php. I can also edit and change .httaccess, but have no direct access to the server or MYSQL, not even by phpadmin. The "skin" is all done by custom.css and other files in the MediaWiki namespace (to ensure migration on update).
I do not know what SSL cert means...
Bernhard
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Tom Hutchison Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. März 2014 14:05 An: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Betreff: Re: [MediaWiki-l] https
If you want to check it out, just go to http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/an/ and ask for "Buddha" in the search box. You will see that among the results, there are several https links
Well, the SSL cert question is answered. Looks like you are on a University server in a subfolder so I would imagine they must have a SSL cert for the main domain. Also looks like you are on a wiki farm. http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/ takes you to a landing page of other wikis.
How much control of the site do you have? Are you sharing one installation? How did you install your own custom skin?
Tom
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PS: $wgServer = "http://www.univie.ac.at";
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Scheid, Bernhard Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. März 2014 14:33 An: Tom Hutchison; MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Betreff: Re: [MediaWiki-l] https
The other wikis are also mine. The rel_jap/an.. Wiki is on a special server, separate from the others, which is faster. I did the wiki setup etc. by myself and can edit the LocalSettings.php. I can also edit and change .httaccess, but have no direct access to the server or MYSQL, not even by phpadmin. The "skin" is all done by custom.css and other files in the MediaWiki namespace (to ensure migration on update).
I do not know what SSL cert means...
Bernhard
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Tom Hutchison Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. März 2014 14:05 An: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Betreff: Re: [MediaWiki-l] https
If you want to check it out, just go to http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/an/ and ask for "Buddha" in the search box. You will see that among the results, there are several https links
Well, the SSL cert question is answered. Looks like you are on a University server in a subfolder so I would imagine they must have a SSL cert for the main domain. Also looks like you are on a wiki farm. http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/ takes you to a landing page of other wikis.
How much control of the site do you have? Are you sharing one installation? How did you install your own custom skin?
Tom
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Sounds like you should just use the htaccess rewrite from an https to http. Lots of links for how tos. You'll have to adapt it into your current one for mw rewrites. Tom
PS: $wgServer = "http://www.univie.ac.at";
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The other wikis are also mine. The rel_jap/an.. Wiki is on a special server, separate from the others, which is faster.
I did the wiki setup etc. by myself and can edit the LocalSettings.php.
I can also edit and change .httaccess, but have no direct access to the server or MYSQL, not even by phpadmin.
The "skin" is all done by custom.css and other files in the MediaWiki namespace (to ensure migration on update).
I do not know what SSL cert means...
Bernhard
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If you want to check it out, just go to http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/an/
and ask for "Buddha" in the search box. You will see that among the results, there are several https links
Well, the SSL cert question is answered. Looks like you are on a University server in a subfolder so I would imagine they must have a SSL cert for the main domain. Also looks like you are on a wiki farm. http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/ takes you to a landing page of other wikis.
How much control of the site do you have? Are you sharing one installation? How did you install your own custom skin?
Tom
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As I posted last month, my wiki does not render https requests correctly: It renders them without CSS. Since Google sends visitors to my pages over https frequently, this has become a problem. See, for instance,
http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/an/Spezial:Version and https://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/an/Spezial:Version
The reason is given in the following error message:
[blocked] The page at 'https://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/an/Spezial:Version' was loaded over HTTPS, but ran insecure content from 'http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/w/load.php?debug=false&lang=de-formal&am...': this content should also be loaded over HTTPS.
How can I configure my wiki in a way that CSS files etc. are also loaded over HTTPS in case of need?
Set $wgServer to a protocol relative url, e.g. $wgServer = "// www.univie.ac.at"; http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgServer
2014-04-17 14:59 GMT+02:00 Scheid, Bernhard Bernhard.Scheid@oeaw.ac.at:
As I posted last month, my wiki does not render https requests correctly: It renders them without CSS. Since Google sends visitors to my pages over https frequently, this has become a problem. See, for instance,
http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/an/Spezial:Version and https://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/an/Spezial:Version
The reason is given in the following error message:
[blocked] The page at 'https://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/an/Spezial:Version' was loaded over HTTPS, but ran insecure content from ' http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/w/load.php?debug=false&lang=de-formal&am...': this content should also be loaded over HTTPS.
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Thank you so much! $wgServer = "//www.univie.ac.at"; did the trick!
Bernhard
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Set $wgServer to a protocol relative url, e.g. $wgServer = "// www.univie.ac.at"; http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgServer
2014-04-17 14:59 GMT+02:00 Scheid, Bernhard Bernhard.Scheid@oeaw.ac.at:
As I posted last month, my wiki does not render https requests correctly: It renders them without CSS. Since Google sends visitors to my pages over https frequently, this has become a problem. See, for instance,
http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/an/Spezial:Version and https://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/an/Spezial:Version
The reason is given in the following error message:
[blocked] The page at 'https://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/an/Spezial:Version' was loaded over HTTPS, but ran insecure content from ' http://www.univie.ac.at/rel_jap/w/load.php?debug=false&lang=de-formal&am...': this content should also be loaded over HTTPS.
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