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From: mediawiki-l-request@Wikimedia.org Subject: MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 35, Issue 8 To: mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:33:44 +0000
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Today's Topics:
- Re: Thumbnails and Interlanguage Links (wiki@avenarius.sk)
- Re: Recent Changes RSS (Rick DeNatale)
- Re: Making first user sysop? (Hugh Prior)
- Re: Thumbnails and Interlanguage Links (Hugh Prior)
- Parse error when upgrading (Christiaan Briggs)
- Re: Interlanguage Links (wiki@avenarius.sk)
- user administration (Frederich, Eric P2173)
- Re: Problems with losing session data. Users cannot edit pages. (Christopher Miller)
- ArticleSaveComplete event (assafkat@post.tau.ac.il)
- Access rights (khuffman@NGS.ORG)
Message: 1 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:01:02 +0200 From: wiki@avenarius.sk Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Thumbnails and Interlanguage Links To: mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Message-ID: 676025994.20060802120102@avenarius.sk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Wednesday, 2nd August 2006 at 11:49:29 (GMT +0200), Filip Maljkovic wrote:
The way I see it, you could achieve what you want by making false interwiki links for every needed language. That is, make interwiki links to that very same website of yours, so the links will show on the left and still connect to pages in your wiki. I'd do it like that.
That's exactly what I've wanted all along, the only question is HOW to do it. ;-) But since you said the InterWiki help page covers those arrangements, I'm confident I can get this done at the weekend. ;-)
Then, you'd have links like [[fr:Chat]] and [[de:Katze]] in your article [[Cat]], but both would link to pages in your wiki. Furthermore, you could separate the content with namespaces because there may be clashes with different languages having the same words/phrases. I'd go with English:Cat, French:Chat etc.
That's an interesting suggestion, but exceeds my technical knowledge for the moment. Will get back to the list should I fail to understand the subject after thoroughly studying the InterWiki help page.
-- Thanks again, Alex. [processed by "The Bat!", Version 3.80.06]
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 07:10:58 -0400 From: "Rick DeNatale" rick.denatale@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Recent Changes RSS To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" mediawiki-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: deb2337a0608020410w18f62f83sff4d41c048f2981e@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 8/1/06, Morten Blaabjerg morten@crewscut.com wrote:
Internet Explorer 7 (beta3) has a nice RSS reader built in. I find I even use it regularly, and it is very convenient.
And Firefox has had the live bookmark feature for as long as I can remember, This works very nicely as well. I put a live bookmark to the rss feed in a top level folder in my personal bookmark folder, the live bookmark looks like a bookmark folder containing the various rss (or atom) items. Beside the feed for my wiki, I've got a "blogs" bookmark folder with all the blogs I follow.
And lately I've been using the firefox MyPortal extension, this builds a nice ajaxy pseudopage with all your bookmarks, with twistys to open and close folders. Very nice
I still want e-mail notification for any additions to my wiki, but that's a separate subject.
-- Rick DeNatale
IPMS/USA Region 12 Coordinator http://ipmsr12.denhaven2.com/
Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:53:31 +0200 From: "Hugh Prior" mediawiki@localpin.com Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Making first user sysop? To: mediawiki-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: eaq3o5$1qj$1@sea.gmane.org
Thanks Filip!
That was just the info I needed (didn't see that table).
"Filip Maljkovic" dungodung@gmail.com wrote in message news:44CF6C98.2010709@gmail.com...
Hugh Prior wrote:
I have a single user on http://fr.chainki.org who is a standard user. How do I make the login a Sysop?
I think the answer is normally to do it from another sysop user, but I need to get one sysop user first!
Thanks!
Hugh
Hugh, have you tried executing the following SQL statement:
INSERT INTO user_groups (ug_user, ug_group) VALUES (<the_user_id>, "sysop");
Filip
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:12:04 +0200 From: "Hugh Prior" mediawiki@localpin.com Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Thumbnails and Interlanguage Links To: mediawiki-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: eaq4qv$5hf$1@sea.gmane.org
I've been fighting with the problem of multiple languages and interlanguage links for http://chainki.org so I'm about 1 or 2 months ahead of you.
In LocalSettings, make sure you have: $wgHideInterlanguageLinks = false;
You can see the difference by comparing: http://en.chainki.org - hide set to true http://fr.chainki.org - hide set to false
In the interwiki table, I have emptied it of all the "interwiki" links (in my view, they're not really useful for most sites) and just put links for my own site, e.g.: af http://af.chainki.org/index.php?title=$1 0 0 ar http://ar.chainki.org/index.php?title=$1 0 0 etc.
As to the suggestion of using different namespaces for diffrent languages, the problem would be that you would not be able to change the interface languge (i.e. you would have all your sections in the same language). You (like me), I suppose need the interface for each section in a different language. For that you will need a separate version for each language, and then you need to do 2 things:
- Set $wgLanguageCode in the LocalSettings file to the interface language
required 2) Run the maintenace script "maintenance/rebuildMessages.php"
The whole multilingual thing might work for Wikipedia, but for Joe Bloggs wanting a simple way to set up (say) a bi or tri lingual site, it's a nightmare. See also http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6107
Hugh
wiki@avenarius.sk wrote in message news:208366999.20060801222236@avenarius.sk...
Hello to the list, Interlanguage Links do not get displayed, no matter if the skin is MonoBook or Classic. After you enter [[de:PageName]], for example, this gets displayed in the body of the wiki webpage and not in a special "In other languages" section.
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:37:10 +0100 From: Christiaan Briggs christiaan@yurkycross.co.uk Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Parse error when upgrading To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Message-ID: D337E848-DFBF-46C4-9E0D-3C5638A72F83@yurkycross.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
Hi, I've attempted to upgrade from some version of 1.6 to 1.7.1, running on Mac OS X 10.4.5 and MySQL 5.0.15.
When I ran the update.php script I got the following message:
Parse error: parse error, expecting `T_OLD_FUNCTION' or `T_FUNCTION' or `T_VAR' or `'}'' in /Library/WebServer/Documents/ wiki/extensions/SpecialWikiFeeds.php on line 74
After removing this extension and the include in LocalSettings.php, and then running update.php again, I got this message:
Parse error: parse error, expecting `T_OLD_FUNCTION' or `T_FUNCTION' or `T_VAR' or `'}'' in /Library/WebServer/Documents/ wiki/includes/Exception.php on line 114
Does anyone know how I can overcome this?
Thanks, Christiaan
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:24:04 +0200 From: wiki@avenarius.sk Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Interlanguage Links To: mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Message-ID: 17010424387.20060802152404@avenarius.sk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Wednesday, 2nd August 2006 at 14:12:04 (GMT +0200), Hugh Prior wrote:
In LocalSettings, make sure you have: $wgHideInterlanguageLinks = false;
Yes, that far we did get. :-) It's too bad this isn't enough to make "interlanguage intrawiki" links (Filip's term) work out of the box. :-|
You can see the difference by comparing: http://en.chainki.org - hide set to true http://fr.chainki.org - hide set to false
Looks like a monumental project. If you really need to do the wiki installation for each language separately (70 times over), that would be enough to drive anyone nuts.
As to the suggestion of using different namespaces for diffrent languages, the problem would be that you would not be able to change the interface languge (i.e. you would have all your sections in the same language).
I think we'll be more modest for now and can live with the default (Slovak) interface for webpages in any language.
After all, once you manage to register at the wiki, you can pick your preferred language and from that moment on, if you're logged in, those different namespaces would display the preferred interface language, right?
The problem is not new. We also run a multi-lingual discussion board, phpBB, and you have the same problem there. Until you log in, the interface displays only one default language. We had to create accounts for Swedes and Spaniards who had no idea where to click on a Slovak site. There's probably no solution for this on a phpBB site. (So let's be grateful for the nightmarish MediaWiki solutions. ;-)))
The whole multilingual thing might work for Wikipedia, but for Joe Bloggs wanting a simple way to set up (say) a bi or tri lingual site, it's a nightmare. See also http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6107
Depressing reading. Maybe that's typical of versions 1.x. Maybe when MediaWiki is at version 6, you'll just have to push a button and 70+ language interfaces will be installed for you. ;-)
Thank you very much for the advice and good luck with your project (about a hundred times more ambitious than ours in terms of multilinguality).
-- Yours, Alex. [processed by "The Bat!", Version 3.80.06]
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:31:11 -0400 From: "Frederich, Eric P2173" eric.frederich@siemens.com Subject: [Mediawiki-l] user administration To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Message-ID: 1BE9CEB282E4FC4B8F49A967C2F9EFD401022999@ORLA204A.ww007.siemens.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
I have MediaWiki running on Solaris and for the time being I can't use the ldap plugin. I'm having a problem in that users are creating accounts with Ids which do not match their windows ID so if in the future we get openldap to compile and start using the plugin they will have different Ids.
It is fairly easy for me to look at an ID on the Special:Listusers page and tell if it is their windows ID or not. Rather than just deleting their account I'd rather send them an e-mail.
Are there any good user administration extensions out there or do I have to go directly into the database to find their e-mail addresses? If I do have to go in the database are there any good free graphical tools to use to connect to the mysql database or should I just use the command line?
Thanks, ~Eric
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:44:53 -0400 From: Christopher Miller cmiller@creativeengineering.com Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Problems with losing session data. Users cannot edit pages. To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Message-ID: 44D0AC55.2020805@creativeengineering.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Mark A. Mandel wrote:
I do my editing and preview, which works as it should, and then I save the page, which works as it should. When I look at the history, my edit shows with my name on it.
Ah,
We can edit and preview too while logged in. But we can't do anything else while logged in, no edits are saved, no pages can be moved/deleted, etc.
As a result everyone is using the wiki anonymously with limited rights.
Regards,
-- Christopher Miller cmiller@creativeengineering.com (914) 771-5540 x20
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:25:19 +0300 From: assafkat@post.tau.ac.il Subject: [Mediawiki-l] ArticleSaveComplete event To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Message-ID: 1154528719.44d0b5cf20a6a@webmail.tau.ac.il Content-Type: text/plain; charset=CP1255
Hello, I use 1.7.1 version and I wrote the code: $wgHooks['ArticleSaveComplete'][] = 'ToggleCourseLinksFlag'; ... function ToggleCourseLinksFlag(&$article, &$user, &$text, &$summary, &$minoredit, &$watchthis, &$sectionanchor) { echo "hello"; $text .= "\n\n" . "hello"; //$article->getOldID(); return true; }
but the "hello" doesn't display at the text box of the article or as message. Thanks, Assaf
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Message: 10 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:33:36 -0400 From: khuffman@NGS.ORG Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Access rights To: mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Message-ID: OF13E97171.68AFBD73-ON852571BE.004F4D4B-852571BE.004FFCA3@NGS.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi, I've modified my LocalSettings.php file to limit who can see, edit, move, etc. content. Below is a short outline of what I've done:
- -- View only access to individuals not signed in/not given an
account; they are restricted to viewing only XX number of pages using $wgWhitelistRead 2) User -- ability to edit pages, upload images but cannot make new pages, move pages, etc. 3) SysOp/Bureaucrat -- granted all rights
I want to create one more access group: UserReadOnly (or something) -- so someone must sign in to be able to read all pages, is not limited to what they see but does not have edit/upload access. Is this possible by adding an additional group in LocalSettings.php e.g.
// Implicit group for all logged-in accounts $wgGroupPermissions['userreadonly' ]['move'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['userreadonly' ]['read'] = true; $wgGroupPermissions['userreadonly' ]['edit'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['userreadonly' ]['createpage'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['userreadonly' ]['createtalk'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['userreadonly' ]['upload'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['userreadonly' ]['reupload'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['userreadonly' ]['reupload-shared'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['userreadonly' ]['minoredit'] = false;
Would this make it accessible by SysOp/Bureaucrat for assigning once a new user account is set up?
Thanks, Karen
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