I'm little bit confused by the {{NUMBEROFPAGES}} variable. When I insert it to article on my MediaWiki server, it shows much less pages, then there is in reality. When I add new article, it is not updated (it is not problem of cached page).
Does anybody know how it calculates # of pages, how to refresh it and if it is possible calculate atricle numbers separately in each namespace?
Thanks for any help
(MW which was moved from the old server to the new one and updated from MW 1.6.8 to MW 1.7 at the same time)
Jakub
Sorry {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} is the right name of variable.
I'm little bit confused by the {{NUMBEROFPAGES}} variable. When I insert it to article on my MediaWiki server, it shows much less pages, then there is in reality. When I add new article, it is not updated (it is not problem of cached page).
Does anybody know how it calculates # of pages, how to refresh it and if it is possible calculate atricle numbers separately in each namespace?
Thanks for any help
(MW which was moved from the old server to the new one and updated from MW 1.6.8 to MW 1.7 at the same time)
Jakub _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
Are you sure the articles you're making are *really* articles. Remember, pages are only counted as articles if they contain an internal link, category, image (i.e. they have "[["). Can you confirm that the new articles you've been adding contain at least one double bracket pair and are longer than a sentence (I think that there's a limit in bytes, too).
Filip
Šerých Jakub wrote:
Sorry {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} is the right name of variable.
I'm little bit confused by the {{NUMBEROFPAGES}} variable. When I insert it to article on my MediaWiki server, it shows much less pages, then there is in reality. When I add new article, it is not updated (it is not problem of cached page).
Does anybody know how it calculates # of pages, how to refresh it and if it is possible calculate atricle numbers separately in each namespace?
Thanks for any help
(MW which was moved from the old server to the new one and updated from MW 1.6.8 to MW 1.7 at the same time)
Jakub
Yes, it seems to be the reason. When I added link to one of the articles, where it was't, the number increased.
Thanks
Jakub
-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org]On Behalf Of Filip Maljkovic Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:31 PM To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] When and how {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}calculates results
Are you sure the articles you're making are *really* articles. Remember, pages are only counted as articles if they contain an internal link, category, image (i.e. they have "[["). Can you confirm that the new articles you've been adding contain at least one double bracket pair and are longer than a sentence (I think that there's a limit in bytes, too).
Filip
Šerých Jakub wrote:
Sorry {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} is the right name of variable.
I'm little bit confused by the {{NUMBEROFPAGES}} variable. When I insert it to article on my MediaWiki server, it shows much less pages, then there is in reality. When I add new article, it is not updated (it is not problem of cached page).
Does anybody know how it calculates # of pages, how to refresh it and if it is possible calculate atricle numbers separately in each namespace?
Thanks for any help
(MW which was moved from the old server to the new one and updated from MW 1.6.8 to MW 1.7 at the same time)
Jakub
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Ok, I'm going to go on a small rant and also offer a solution to this.
I too have found that the NUMBEROFARTICLES count is just wrong and confusing. For there to be a limit in bytes or any other qualifier is silly. I can understand that the article count is only based on articles in the "Main space" and ones that aren't redirects. For there to be qualifications for what is an article in the "Main space" just confuses people. It should be a user configurable setting, like:
$ArticleQual_Bytes = 10; # 10 bytes required $ArticleQual_CategoryRequired = "true"; # Must be in category $ArticleQual_IncludeInternalLink = "true"; $ArticleQual_IncludeImage = "true";
and so on.
As one of the maintainers of Bloomingpedia (http://www.bloomingpedia.org/), I couldn't rely on the article count so I had to create a special page called PageCreateOrder that would give me an accurate count based on this query:
"SELECT 'PageCreateOrder' AS type, a.page_namespace AS namespace, a.page_title AS title, UNIX_TIMESTAMP(MIN(b.rev_timestamp)) AS value, rev_user_text FROM $page a, $revision b WHERE a.page_id=b.rev_page AND a.page_namespace=".NS_MAIN." AND a.page_is_redirect=0 GROUP BY page_id";
So this query only requires that articles be in the main namespace and not a redirecting page. If you want the full code, go here:
http://www.bloomingpedia.org/otherstuff/SpecialPageCreateOrder.php.txt
The way mediawiki calculates the NUMBEROFARTICLES count is much different and trying to trace back how its calculated is not trivial. From looking at the code the count is stored in a column called ss_good_articles in the table sitestats and it recalculates that every time there is an edit, essentially determining if the article being edited has "moved into the realm of becoming an article". I can understand that this may be more efficient, but its done in such a complex way that it probably has bugs.
I think it would be easy enough to create a new variable called REALNUMBEROFARTICLES that calculates the real number based on my query above. I have a wiki with over 1200 articles and it only takes 0.07 seconds to run that query, so performance isn't a big deal. Although I guess it might be on wikipedia and other very large wikis. But just don't use it there if that's the case.
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 10:30:46AM GMT, Filip Maljkovic [dungodung@gmail.com] said the following:
Are you sure the articles you're making are *really* articles. Remember, pages are only counted as articles if they contain an internal link, category, image (i.e. they have "[["). Can you confirm that the new articles you've been adding contain at least one double bracket pair and are longer than a sentence (I think that there's a limit in bytes, too).
Filip
?erých Jakub wrote:
Sorry {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} is the right name of variable.
I'm little bit confused by the {{NUMBEROFPAGES}} variable. When I insert it to article on my MediaWiki server, it shows much less pages, then there is in reality. When I add new article, it is not updated (it is not problem of cached page).
Does anybody know how it calculates # of pages, how to refresh it and if it is possible calculate atricle numbers separately in each namespace?
Thanks for any help
(MW which was moved from the old server to the new one and updated from MW 1.6.8 to MW 1.7 at the same time)
Jakub
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