Hi there,
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but here goes.
On Wikinews, we've started to talk about whether there could be any way to expose unique identifiers for news articles, rather than having to rely on page names. (See: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#URLs_using_IDs_r...)
This is important because:
a) Without a unique identifier, it's impossible to tell when an article has moved. This is a particular problem for the RSS feed - without a unique ID, articles that get moved appear twice (or more).
b) It should be possible to have two articles with the same headline.
As I see it, there are two possible solutions. The first would be to just address a) by exposing an ID in the RSS feeds (in the <guid> sub-element of item), without altering the URLs.
The second way would be to alter the URLs so that they're at en.wikinews.org/wiki/8986456, allowing more than one article to have the same title.
I realise that both solutions would probably require a major re-working of the underlying MediaWiki architecture.
Is there any chance that such a change could ever be implemented? Or are there any other workarounds to the problem?
Cheers,
Frankie Roberto
Pages do have a unique identifier. It's just not shown; when MediaWiki looks at titles, it splits it into a namespace number and title text, then (internally) can turn that into a page identifier.
I'm not sure how this information helps, however. Unique identifiers still "change" when the page is moved (because a new page record is created). However, I suppose it's a bit of background information on how it's done right now.
Rob Church
On 25/02/06, Frankie Roberto frankie@frankieroberto.com wrote:
Hi there,
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but here goes.
On Wikinews, we've started to talk about whether there could be any way to expose unique identifiers for news articles, rather than having to rely on page names. (See: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#URLs_using_IDs_r...)
This is important because:
a) Without a unique identifier, it's impossible to tell when an article has moved. This is a particular problem for the RSS feed - without a unique ID, articles that get moved appear twice (or more).
b) It should be possible to have two articles with the same headline.
As I see it, there are two possible solutions. The first would be to just address a) by exposing an ID in the RSS feeds (in the <guid> sub-element of item), without altering the URLs.
The second way would be to alter the URLs so that they're at en.wikinews.org/wiki/8986456, allowing more than one article to have the same title.
I realise that both solutions would probably require a major re-working of the underlying MediaWiki architecture.
Is there any chance that such a change could ever be implemented? Or are there any other workarounds to the problem?
Cheers,
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