I hope (and I can only hope) somebody will come up with features that make MW a natural choice in business wikis as well. As Dave pointed out, an inbuilt WYSWYG editor is everyone's dream. Other than that, I think a wiki administrator would like to have built in features in MW as:
Different authentication mechanisms like LDAP, NTLM UI for creating users, groups and assigning users to groups UI for creating categories and assigning categories to articles UI-based access control mechanism based on article categories/user groups and usernames Review mechanism if needed Rating of articles
Regards,
Jack ---------------------------------------------------------------- "Techies are like stars--they rise and set, they have the worship of the world, but no repose"
-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sigafoos Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:48 AM To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Looking for MW Business Users
My thoughts are these ..
First, none of this is looking for a replacement to MW site. This has been a great source of information. I just recognize that there might be a bit much chatter on the MW site about things that they don't really care about. Anything the comes about from this type of source *must be* shared with MW as far as I am concerned.
a location where problems that have come up trying to do 'business' things with MW are addressed. As mentioned in my original post, these are things that will probably never fit into the MW/WP world. As you mentioned 'access restriction', different reporting/special pages. Processes that 'implementors' (probably better than business?) might need that WikiWorld wont.
The wiki is a great way of sharing information. But sometimes businesses need a little more than just 'editing' and viewing. One example would be the BoilerplateSelection extension I did. We have various formatted documents (currently formatted in 'word') that we want to use. This extension allows auto-seed depending on article name. This works well for us (could be modified for various uses).
a location where people can 'team' to work out a specific problem. A WYSIWYG editor might be an example. Although not everyone wants one of these, if there are some developers who would help out on something like this it would be great. Not all of us have all the knowledge of MW to develop something this complex but I am sure the knowledge is out there
I am sure that there are other examples that can be thought of that something like this might work for.
The trick would be to keep the MW core developers involved with these ideas as their knowledge is crucial to get any of these things working. But letting them be distant enough that they aren't 'expected' to answer questions.
DSig David Tod Sigafoos | SANMAR Corporation
-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Frederik Dohr Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:52 To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Looking for MW Business Users
At one time I thought I had read that there was a group of MW users
who
were getting together to discuss more 'business' needs in wiki.
Well, I remember having been involved in this: http://wikis.wikia.com/wiki/Wiki_sales_pitch But that's not exactly what you're looking for. There's also Enterprise Wikimania, hosted by Socialtext: http://www.eu.socialtext.net/ewikimania/index.cgi Though that's pretty much dead as far as I can tell (and it's obviously not focused on the MediaWiki engine either)...
Is there a better place to put up questions discussing possible extensions that would probably never be used in WP worlds but would be better aimed at usage by business. Is there interest in such?
I would certainly be interested in that, but I'm not sure whether or how
I could contribute...
What kind of topics - other than the obvious access restrictions - are you thinking of?
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To answer the original question - there is indeed a private list for businesses and developers wishing to discuss MediaWiki in enterprise with a view to actually contributing time and or money to such efforts - I believe. It may be mediawiki-enterprise-l but I don't know; contact Erik Möller for details.
On 29/06/07, Jack Eapen C jackec@suntecgroup.com wrote:
I hope (and I can only hope) somebody will come up with features that make MW a natural choice in business wikis as well. As Dave pointed out, an inbuilt WYSWYG editor is everyone's dream. Other than that, I think a wiki administrator would like to have built in features in MW as:
Different authentication mechanisms like LDAP, NTLM UI for creating users, groups and assigning users to groups UI for creating categories and assigning categories to articles UI-based access control mechanism based on article categories/user groups and usernames Review mechanism if needed Rating of articles
Regards,
Jack
"Techies are like stars--they rise and set, they have the worship of the world, but no repose"
-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sigafoos Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:48 AM To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Looking for MW Business Users
My thoughts are these ..
First, none of this is looking for a replacement to MW site. This has been a great source of information. I just recognize that there might be a bit much chatter on the MW site about things that they don't really care about. Anything the comes about from this type of source *must be* shared with MW as far as I am concerned.
a location where problems that have come up trying to do 'business' things with MW are addressed. As mentioned in my original post, these are things that will probably never fit into the MW/WP world. As you mentioned 'access restriction', different reporting/special pages. Processes that 'implementors' (probably better than business?) might need that WikiWorld wont.
The wiki is a great way of sharing information. But sometimes businesses need a little more than just 'editing' and viewing. One example would be the BoilerplateSelection extension I did. We have various formatted documents (currently formatted in 'word') that we want to use. This extension allows auto-seed depending on article name. This works well for us (could be modified for various uses).
a location where people can 'team' to work out a specific problem. A WYSIWYG editor might be an example. Although not everyone wants one of these, if there are some developers who would help out on something like this it would be great. Not all of us have all the knowledge of MW to develop something this complex but I am sure the knowledge is out there
I am sure that there are other examples that can be thought of that something like this might work for.
The trick would be to keep the MW core developers involved with these ideas as their knowledge is crucial to get any of these things working. But letting them be distant enough that they aren't 'expected' to answer questions.
DSig David Tod Sigafoos | SANMAR Corporation
-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Frederik Dohr Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:52 To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Looking for MW Business Users
At one time I thought I had read that there was a group of MW users
who
were getting together to discuss more 'business' needs in wiki.
Well, I remember having been involved in this: http://wikis.wikia.com/wiki/Wiki_sales_pitch But that's not exactly what you're looking for. There's also Enterprise Wikimania, hosted by Socialtext: http://www.eu.socialtext.net/ewikimania/index.cgi Though that's pretty much dead as far as I can tell (and it's obviously not focused on the MediaWiki engine either)...
Is there a better place to put up questions discussing possible extensions that would probably never be used in WP worlds but would be better aimed at usage by business. Is there interest in such?
I would certainly be interested in that, but I'm not sure whether or how
I could contribute...
What kind of topics - other than the obvious access restrictions - are you thinking of?
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On 6/29/07, Gary Kirk gary.kirk@gmail.com wrote:
To answer the original question - there is indeed a private list for businesses and developers wishing to discuss MediaWiki in enterprise with a view to actually contributing time and or money to such efforts
- I believe. It may be mediawiki-enterprise-l but I don't know;
contact Erik Möller for details.
You can subscribe to that at http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-enterprise
There's also the MediaWiki Next Generation list at http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-ng-l
Angela
Oh, it's (currently) a public list but membership is moderated. Apologies, I was writing from a mobile phone :)
On 30/06/07, Angela beesley@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/29/07, Gary Kirk gary.kirk@gmail.com wrote:
To answer the original question - there is indeed a private list for businesses and developers wishing to discuss MediaWiki in enterprise with a view to actually contributing time and or money to such efforts
- I believe. It may be mediawiki-enterprise-l but I don't know;
contact Erik Möller for details.
You can subscribe to that at http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-enterprise
There's also the MediaWiki Next Generation list at http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-ng-l
Angela
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Thanks for that ..
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-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 5:41 To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Looking for MW Business Users
On 6/29/07, Gary Kirk gary.kirk@gmail.com wrote:
To answer the original question - there is indeed a private list for businesses and developers wishing to discuss MediaWiki in enterprise with a view to actually contributing time and or money to such efforts
- I believe. It may be mediawiki-enterprise-l but I don't know;
contact Erik Möller for details.
You can subscribe to that at http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-enterprise
There's also the MediaWiki Next Generation list at http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-ng-l
Angela
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I'm trying to build a template with the "collapsible" class (just copy & pasting from Wikipedia) and I don't get it to collapse. So, I figured I was missing something from either Common.css or Monobook.css. I copied them over in their entirety and it still doesn't work (yes, I cleared my cache, etc.)
So, what am I missing? I'm running Mediawiki 1.10
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mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org wrote on 02-07-2007 09:59:47:
KAndreou-V52aIsy7fgU@public.gmane.org wrote :
So, what am I missing?
Common.js
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I hope (and I can only hope) somebody will come up with features that make MW a natural choice in business wikis as well. As Dave pointed out, an inbuilt WYSWYG editor is everyone's dream. Other than that, I think a wiki administrator would like to have built in features in MW as:
Different authentication mechanisms like LDAP, NTLM UI for creating users, groups and assigning users to groups UI for creating categories and assigning categories to articles UI-based access control mechanism based on article categories/user groups and usernames Review mechanism if needed Rating of articles
If you mean, you'd like to see support those auth methods, support is already available for them. The LDAP one will sync groups from LDAP, and it is possible to have the wiki create LDAP accounts (if you *really* want that). There are also quite a few access control extensions around, that work on categories, and even per page; the regular saying goes that the access control plugins can't be trusted regarding read rights...
If you only wanted the UI, then PHPldapAdmin, or some other LDAP admin gui would solve at least part of your problem.
V/r,
Ryan Lane
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