Andrew,
Thanks for your info.
Another reason of not using the markup is that sometimes when you have a long list of "lists" with "sublists" (i.e. *, **, ***), it is quite difficult to the eye to read the markup. (And you can't really "format" the markup e.g. your list must read like this:
* Item 1 ** Subitem 1 * Item 2 etc etc
but I can't do this * Item 1 ** Subitem 1 * Item 2 etc etc
which the latter is MUCH easier on the eye )
Also, while some people (including me) think it is quite easy to pick up the markup language, there are also people who still think it is difficult. Not so much if you're creating a fresh page. But if you're trying to edit an existing page that is quite long (esp if it is a long list), I understand how sometimes it is difficult to read that markup language and find the spot where you want to edit.
I also have read that WYSIWYG editor page you mentioned when I was doing the research. However, it would be nice to hear from anyone who has implemented it into the MediaWiki system and see how well/not well it worked.
Thanks, Simon
-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Reberry Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 7:42 PM To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list' Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] WYSIWYG editor for MediaWiki
I can't answer your question directly as for WYSIWYG editors, but I can tell you Wiki markup really is not too hard to develop. I can only imagine that it is easier to use wikimarkup then it is to work with a WYSIWYG editor. Here is a page describing some of what you were wondering:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYG_editor
More or less, linking, lists, line breaks are fairly straight forward in my opinion. Here is a general overview of how you can edit pages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page
I could only assume that it would not be more than a couple hours to learn the basics of wiki markup. Here is more info on creating tables in wiki markup:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_markup_tables
Andrew
-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Simon Tse Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 7:04 PM To: mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Subject: [Mediawiki-l] WYSIWYG editor for MediaWiki
Has anyone here implemented a WYSIWYG editor for MediaWiki? If so, what did you use and how do you like it? The reason is that some of our writers are still scared to look at the wiki markup.
Thanks,
Simon Tse, Webmaster Laserfiche
Run Smarter
E-mail: mailto:simon.tse@laserfiche.com simon.tse@laserfiche.com Office: 562-988-1688 x 227 Web: http://www.laserfiche.com www.laserfiche.com
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However, it would be nice to hear from anyone who has implemented it into the MediaWiki system and see how well/not well it worked.
Yes, I agree it would be good to hear from other people with real world experience. I have contemplated having some of my non-technical people develop this way too, but it has just seemed like too much work (not to have them learn wiki syntax, but how the entire system works with discussions and more)
Andrew
-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Simon Tse Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 8:53 PM To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] WYSIWYG editor for MediaWiki
Andrew,
Thanks for your info.
Another reason of not using the markup is that sometimes when you have a long list of "lists" with "sublists" (i.e. *, **, ***), it is quite difficult to the eye to read the markup. (And you can't really "format" the markup e.g. your list must read like this:
* Item 1 ** Subitem 1 * Item 2 etc etc
but I can't do this * Item 1 ** Subitem 1 * Item 2 etc etc
which the latter is MUCH easier on the eye )
Also, while some people (including me) think it is quite easy to pick up the markup language, there are also people who still think it is difficult. Not so much if you're creating a fresh page. But if you're trying to edit an existing page that is quite long (esp if it is a long list), I understand how sometimes it is difficult to read that markup language and find the spot where you want to edit.
I also have read that WYSIWYG editor page you mentioned when I was doing the research. However, it would be nice to hear from anyone who has implemented it into the MediaWiki system and see how well/not well it worked.
Thanks, Simon
-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Reberry Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 7:42 PM To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list' Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] WYSIWYG editor for MediaWiki
I can't answer your question directly as for WYSIWYG editors, but I can tell you Wiki markup really is not too hard to develop. I can only imagine that it is easier to use wikimarkup then it is to work with a WYSIWYG editor. Here is a page describing some of what you were wondering:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYG_editor
More or less, linking, lists, line breaks are fairly straight forward in my opinion. Here is a general overview of how you can edit pages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page
I could only assume that it would not be more than a couple hours to learn the basics of wiki markup. Here is more info on creating tables in wiki markup:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_markup_tables
Andrew
-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Simon Tse Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 7:04 PM To: mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Subject: [Mediawiki-l] WYSIWYG editor for MediaWiki
Has anyone here implemented a WYSIWYG editor for MediaWiki? If so, what did you use and how do you like it? The reason is that some of our writers are still scared to look at the wiki markup.
Thanks,
Simon Tse, Webmaster Laserfiche
Run Smarter
E-mail: mailto:simon.tse@laserfiche.com simon.tse@laserfiche.com Office: 562-988-1688 x 227 Web: http://www.laserfiche.com www.laserfiche.com
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