lucky thing I'm bald already... for the last hour or so I'm trying to understand how to get a template with a table to display on the top of a text section. I won't bother you with the live examples since my site is in Hebrew so I'll put it this way - I wanted to recreate the "related articles" boxes that wikipedia uses for timelines, James Bond films, and other article groups. the difference is I wanted the navigation box to be on top. I could only get it floated on the left or right. if I just put the {{nav}} on top without a flot style, it will invariably display at the bottom of the text section (before the next ==header==) and defy HTML logic. even weirder - I discovered this happens only for the LAST table in the LAST template, if several are listed... to explain: --- template 1 --- {| | table 1 |-} {| | table 2 |-} --- template 2 --- {| | table 3 |-} {| | table 4 |-} --- page foo --- {{template 1}} {{template 2}} some text paragraph two ==header== --- final render --- |table 1| |table 2| |table 3| some text paragraph two |table 4| <h2>header</h2> --- end demo --- finally my solution (discovered while typing this out) was to have the {{nav}} template have a second, empty, table after the main one, and pop, the first table displays on top correctly now. Is this a bug or a "feature?" -- Pavlov's dog Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/