From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page for the
category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a page, unless those categories have been created, they do not actually exist until their description pages have been edited.
I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank categories (it was created from an XML dump made from content from another wiki engine that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I would like to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they can be properly indexed.
Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these categories manually?
Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com wrote:
From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page for the category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a page, unless those categories have been created, they do not actually exist until their description pages have been edited.
I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank categories (it was created from an XML dump made from content from another wiki engine that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I would like to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they can be properly indexed.
Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these categories manually? _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
What I want to do is mass create category description pages for all of these wanted categories.
The text would simply be a link to a "master category" that they would all fall under (for organization purposes).
My problem is that bot programs (like AutoWikibrowser) don't seem to have the capability to create category description pages since the pages don't exist, and since I have thousands of pages to create, I really wanted to add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to create pages in bulk with preselected text.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John phoenixoverride@gmail.com wrote:
Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com wrote:
From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page for the category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a page, unless those categories have been created, they do not actually exist
until
their description pages have been edited.
I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank
categories
(it was created from an XML dump made from content from another wiki
engine
that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I would like to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they can be properly indexed.
Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these categories manually? _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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It's nothing fancy, but Special:WantedCategories (or, better, its API equivalent) will give you the list, and the edit.php maintenance script, Pywikibot, or the bot framework of your choice will let you create pages from the list.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com wrote:
What I want to do is mass create category description pages for all of these wanted categories.
The text would simply be a link to a "master category" that they would all fall under (for organization purposes).
My problem is that bot programs (like AutoWikibrowser) don't seem to have the capability to create category description pages since the pages don't exist, and since I have thousands of pages to create, I really wanted to add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to create pages in bulk with preselected text.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John phoenixoverride@gmail.com wrote:
Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com
wrote:
From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page for the category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a page, unless those categories have been created, they do not actually exist
until
their description pages have been edited.
I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank
categories
(it was created from an XML dump made from content from another wiki
engine
that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I would
like
to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they can
be
properly indexed.
Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these categories manually? _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Benjamin Lees emufarmers@gmail.com wrote:
It's nothing fancy, but Special:WantedCategories (or, better, its API equivalent) will give you the list, and the edit.php maintenance script, Pywikibot, or the bot framework of your choice will let you create pages from the list.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com wrote:
What I want to do is mass create category description pages for all of these wanted categories.
The text would simply be a link to a "master category" that they would
all
fall under (for organization purposes).
My problem is that bot programs (like AutoWikibrowser) don't seem to have the capability to create category description pages since the pages don't exist, and since I have thousands of pages to create, I really wanted to add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to create pages in bulk with preselected text.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John phoenixoverride@gmail.com wrote:
Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com
wrote:
From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page for
the
category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a page, unless those categories have been created, they do not actually exist
until
their description pages have been edited.
I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank
categories
(it was created from an XML dump made from content from another wiki
engine
that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I would
like
to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they can
be
properly indexed.
Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these
categories
manually? _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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Well, correction: I think edit.php is the route I plan to go to do this, but how would I extract a list of every wanted category so all the pages could be converted as a batch with whatever wikitext I desire?
I followed the instructions on the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Edit.php page, but I'm not sure how (if possible) to apply a "wildcard" to the Category: so that it will batch create category description pages for every category.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Benjamin Lees emufarmers@gmail.comwrote:
It's nothing fancy, but Special:WantedCategories (or, better, its API equivalent) will give you the list, and the edit.php maintenance script, Pywikibot, or the bot framework of your choice will let you create pages from the list.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com wrote:
What I want to do is mass create category description pages for all of these wanted categories.
The text would simply be a link to a "master category" that they would
all
fall under (for organization purposes).
My problem is that bot programs (like AutoWikibrowser) don't seem to
have
the capability to create category description pages since the pages
don't
exist, and since I have thousands of pages to create, I really wanted to add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to create pages in bulk with preselected text.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John phoenixoverride@gmail.com wrote:
Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com
wrote:
From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page for
the
category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a
page,
unless those categories have been created, they do not actually
exist
until
their description pages have been edited.
I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank
categories
(it was created from an XML dump made from content from another wiki
engine
that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I would
like
to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they
can
be
properly indexed.
Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these
categories
manually? _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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Can't you have edit.php place this statement on all category pages ? "This is the {{PAGENAME}} category."
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On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com wrote:
Well, correction: I think edit.php is the route I plan to go to do this, but how would I extract a list of every wanted category so all the pages could be converted as a batch with whatever wikitext I desire?
I followed the instructions on the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Edit.php page, but I'm not sure how (if possible) to apply a "wildcard" to the Category: so that it will batch create category description pages for every category.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Benjamin Lees <emufarmers@gmail.com wrote:
It's nothing fancy, but Special:WantedCategories (or, better, its API equivalent) will give you the list, and the edit.php maintenance script, Pywikibot, or the bot framework of your choice will let you create pages from the list.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com
wrote:
What I want to do is mass create category description pages for all of these wanted categories.
The text would simply be a link to a "master category" that they would
all
fall under (for organization purposes).
My problem is that bot programs (like AutoWikibrowser) don't seem to
have
the capability to create category description pages since the pages
don't
exist, and since I have thousands of pages to create, I really wanted
to
add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to
create
pages in bulk with preselected text.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John phoenixoverride@gmail.com
wrote:
Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com
wrote:
From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page
for
the
category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a
page,
unless those categories have been created, they do not actually
exist
until
their description pages have been edited.
I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank
categories
(it was created from an XML dump made from content from another
wiki
engine
that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I
would
like
to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they
can
be
properly indexed.
Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these
categories
manually? _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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api.php?action=query&list=querypage&qppage=Wantedcategories&qplimit=5000 will give you the list in a format you can readily convert to just the names.
You can then loop over the list of categories in your programming language of choice and run edit.php once for each category.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com wrote:
Well, correction: I think edit.php is the route I plan to go to do this, but how would I extract a list of every wanted category so all the pages could be converted as a batch with whatever wikitext I desire?
I followed the instructions on the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Edit.php page, but I'm not sure how (if possible) to apply a "wildcard" to the Category: so that it will batch create category description pages for every category.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Benjamin Lees <emufarmers@gmail.com wrote:
It's nothing fancy, but Special:WantedCategories (or, better, its API equivalent) will give you the list, and the edit.php maintenance script, Pywikibot, or the bot framework of your choice will let you create pages from the list.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com
wrote:
What I want to do is mass create category description pages for all of these wanted categories.
The text would simply be a link to a "master category" that they would
all
fall under (for organization purposes).
My problem is that bot programs (like AutoWikibrowser) don't seem to
have
the capability to create category description pages since the pages
don't
exist, and since I have thousands of pages to create, I really wanted
to
add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to
create
pages in bulk with preselected text.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John phoenixoverride@gmail.com
wrote:
Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com
wrote:
From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page
for
the
category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a
page,
unless those categories have been created, they do not actually
exist
until
their description pages have been edited.
I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank
categories
(it was created from an XML dump made from content from another
wiki
engine
that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I
would
like
to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so they
can
be
properly indexed.
Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these
categories
manually? _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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That sounds like it should work. Thanks!
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Benjamin Lees emufarmers@gmail.com wrote:
api.php?action=query&list=querypage&qppage=Wantedcategories&qplimit=5000 will give you the list in a format you can readily convert to just the names.
You can then loop over the list of categories in your programming language of choice and run edit.php once for each category.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com wrote:
Well, correction: I think edit.php is the route I plan to go to do this, but how would I extract a list of every wanted category so all the pages could be converted as a batch with whatever wikitext I desire?
I followed the instructions on the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Edit.php page, but I'm not sure
how
(if possible) to apply a "wildcard" to the Category: so that it will
batch
create category description pages for every category.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Benjamin Lees <emufarmers@gmail.com wrote:
It's nothing fancy, but Special:WantedCategories (or, better, its API equivalent) will give you the list, and the edit.php maintenance
script,
Pywikibot, or the bot framework of your choice will let you create
pages
from the list.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com
wrote:
What I want to do is mass create category description pages for all
of
these wanted categories.
The text would simply be a link to a "master category" that they
would
all
fall under (for organization purposes).
My problem is that bot programs (like AutoWikibrowser) don't seem to
have
the capability to create category description pages since the pages
don't
exist, and since I have thousands of pages to create, I really
wanted
to
add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to
create
pages in bulk with preselected text.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John phoenixoverride@gmail.com
wrote:
Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 <infiltrator7n@gmail.com
wrote:
> From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page
for
the
> category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a
page,
> unless those categories have been created, they do not actually
exist
until > their description pages have been edited. > > I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of blank categories > (it was created from an XML dump made from content from another
wiki
engine > that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I
would
like
> to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so
they
can
be
> properly indexed. > > Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these
categories
> manually? > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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Just wanted to share my solution with everyone else (I use AutoWikiBrowser)
1. I used Benjamin Lees advice about the following api call:
api.php?action=query&list= querypage&qppage=Wantedcategories&qplimit=5000
2. I extracted just the category names and saved them is a text file.
3. I logged in to my wiki on AWB, went to the "More" tab, then added some appended text. I then went to the skip page and changed the "Page" settings to "doesn't care" (this is important, otherwise the batch edits will fail since the page doesn't exist)
4. Turned on AWB, set it to bot settings, got myself a cup of coffee and a nice book to read while the bot fills in the blanks.
5. Repeated steps 1 through 3 as often as needed until the rest of the pages were filled in.
And that's it. This advice will have to modified if you don't use AWB, but it otherwise works fine for me.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com wrote:
That sounds like it should work. Thanks!
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Benjamin Lees emufarmers@gmail.comwrote:
api.php?action=query&list=querypage&qppage=Wantedcategories&qplimit=5000 will give you the list in a format you can readily convert to just the names.
You can then loop over the list of categories in your programming language of choice and run edit.php once for each category.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com wrote:
Well, correction: I think edit.php is the route I plan to go to do this, but how would I extract a list of every wanted category so all the pages could be converted as a batch with whatever wikitext I desire?
I followed the instructions on the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Edit.php page, but I'm not sure
how
(if possible) to apply a "wildcard" to the Category: so that it will
batch
create category description pages for every category.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Benjamin Lees <emufarmers@gmail.com wrote:
It's nothing fancy, but Special:WantedCategories (or, better, its API equivalent) will give you the list, and the edit.php maintenance
script,
Pywikibot, or the bot framework of your choice will let you create
pages
from the list.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com
wrote:
What I want to do is mass create category description pages for
all of
these wanted categories.
The text would simply be a link to a "master category" that they
would
all
fall under (for organization purposes).
My problem is that bot programs (like AutoWikibrowser) don't seem
to
have
the capability to create category description pages since the pages
don't
exist, and since I have thousands of pages to create, I really
wanted
to
add text to these new pages in bulk, but I'm at a loss for how to
create
pages in bulk with preselected text.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM, John phoenixoverride@gmail.com
wrote:
> Depends on what kind of text you want to create the page with. > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Geth N7 <
infiltrator7n@gmail.com>
wrote: > > > From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page
for
the
> > category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a
page,
> > unless those categories have been created, they do not actually
exist
> until > > their description pages have been edited. > > > > I ask this because I'm in charge of wiki that has a lot of
blank
> categories > > (it was created from an XML dump made from content from another
wiki
> engine > > that did not support categories in the MediaWiki sense), and I
would
like > > to mass add some text to all of these "wanted categories" so
they
can
be > > properly indexed. > > > > Is there a way to do this, or will I have to edit all these
categories
> > manually? > > _______________________________________________ > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Geth N7 infiltrator7n@gmail.com wrote:
From what I understand, a category doesn't exist until the page for the category is edited, so even if there are categories listed on a page, unless those categories have been created, they do not actually exist until their description pages have been edited.
Yes the category is "there" and yes, you can see the pages/files/etc that it contains, It is just redlinking because its description doesn't exist yet.
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