Hi Yaron and Duncan,

after having had the opportunity to test TinyMCE on a few existing pages, I'm now sad to report that I've had to disable it again, since it "wrecked" to many of the existing formatting sets.

It espicially had problems with code like:

^{[[#top|[zum Seitenanfang]]]<br>}

when it followed bullet-lists

Also I very often got error messages when I tried to safe pages (something with "loop" in it)...

I really hope you'll be able to fix those problems very soon.

Kate

Am 14.03.2018 um 14:35 schrieb Katharina Wolkwitz:

Hi Yaron and Duncan,

thank you for this extension! I've just installed it on my wiki and am simply thrilled with how fast I now have a WYSIYWYG-editor up and running!

And the best: it's running side-by-side with the "original" editor-interface, so all those who do not want to change over don't have to.

Kate

Am 14.03.2018 um 00:25 schrieb Yaron Koren:

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Hi everyone,

We're very pleased to announce the release of a new WYSIWYG extension for MediaWiki, "TinyMCE":

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TinyMCE

As you can probably guess from the name, this extension lets you use TinyMCE, a popular (and open source) web-based WYSIWYG editor, to edit wiki pages and textarea fields within the PageForms extension.

We have created this extension based on one called "VisualEditor", which is part of the BlueSpice package:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor_(BlueSpice)

It is not related to the much-better-known extension also called VisualEditor, other than that they're both WYSIWYG editors.

The BlueSpice VisualEditor extension was developed by a team at the company Hallo Welt!. Duncan then worked to turn this into a true standalone extension, while I helped with some of the more MediaWiki-related aspects of it.

Why another WYSIWYG extension? This extension is not as good at editing wiki pages as VisualEditor (the better-known one). However, it has a number of advantages, most notably the fact that it's quite a bit easier to install, since it doesn't require any outside libraries or services - you just download the code, install it, and everything (hopefully) works. Another major advantage, for those who use the Page Forms extension, is that it's easily integrated into the textarea inputs of forms.

Feel free to try this out on your wikis, and let us know on the talk page if you run into any issues.

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Hi Yaron,

thank you for your quick answer.

To be honest, I'm not sure, where the <br> inside the navigation-snippet came from. I've managed to eliminate it with the help of the text-replace-extension and now TinyMCE seems to have a lot less problems with the already existing pages then before. :-)

I've still managed to produce the error-message when hitting the safe-button and copied it for you:

Sorry, an infinite loop occurred. The editor had to shut down. Please check your wiki page for errors.

It seems this occurs when I try to edit the whole page that starts with a template-call {{TOCright}}

Here is the corresponding template-code:

{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="clear: {{{clear|right}}}; margin-bottom: .5em; float: right; padding: .5em 0 .8em 1.4em; background: none; width: {{{width|{{{1|auto}}}}}};" {{#if:{{{limit|}}}|class="toclimit-{{{limit}}}"}} | __TOC__ |}

I've copied it years ago from somewhere and it's always done it what it's supposed to do, but maybe there's a bug in it somewhere?

When this error occurs, it seems the rest of the page gets jumbeled up as well... I've just found mixed up headers further down in the page for example.

It's a page with quite a lot of code-snippets in it (called "PHP und vufind-Tipps") so I'm afraid, getting heads- and tails of what is jumbled up and what is the correct code is not that simple.

Kate

Am 22.03.2018 um 14:43 schrieb Yaron Koren:

Hi Kate,

I'm sorry to hear about this problem. We actually had some recent improvements to the TinyMCE code that may fix the problems some of you're seeing - could you make sure that you're using the latest version of the code?

There's no question that TinyMCE is not perfect with wikitext, and it probably never will be. I'm wondering about that specific wikitext, though

• why do you have a "<br>" in the middle of it? That seems to be what

causes the problem, at least when I try it.

Also, if you see an error message again, it would be great if you could send me the full wikitext of the page where it happens.

-Yaron

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Katharina Wolkwitz wolkwitz@fh-swf.de wrote:

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Hi Yaron and Duncan,

after having had the opportunity to test TinyMCE on a few existing pages, I'm now sad to report that I've had to disable it again, since it "wrecked" to many of the existing formatting sets.

It espicially had problems with code like:

^{[[#top|[zum Seitenanfang]]]<br>}

when it followed bullet-lists

Also I very often got error messages when I tried to safe pages (something with "loop" in it)...

I really hope you'll be able to fix those problems very soon.

Kate

Am 14.03.2018 um 14:35 schrieb Katharina Wolkwitz:

...

Hi Yaron and Duncan,

thank you for this extension! I've just installed it on my wiki and am simply thrilled with how fast I now have a WYSIYWYG-editor up and running!

And the best: it's running side-by-side with the "original" editor-interface, so all those who do not want to change over don't have to.

Kate

Am 14.03.2018 um 00:25 schrieb Yaron Koren:

...

Hi everyone,

We're very pleased to announce the release of a new WYSIWYG extension for MediaWiki, "TinyMCE":

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TinyMCE

As you can probably guess from the name, this extension lets you use TinyMCE, a popular (and open source) web-based WYSIWYG editor, to edit wiki pages and textarea fields within the PageForms extension.

We have created this extension based on one called "VisualEditor", which is part of the BlueSpice package:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor_(BlueSpice)

It is not related to the much-better-known extension also called VisualEditor, other than that they're both WYSIWYG editors.

The BlueSpice VisualEditor extension was developed by a team at the company Hallo Welt!. Duncan then worked to turn this into a true standalone extension, while I helped with some of the more MediaWiki-related aspects of it.

Why another WYSIWYG extension? This extension is not as good at editing wiki pages as VisualEditor (the better-known one). However, it has a number of advantages, most notably the fact that it's quite a bit easier to install, since it doesn't require any outside libraries or services - you just download the code, install it, and everything (hopefully) works. Another major advantage, for those who use the Page Forms extension, is that it's easily integrated into the textarea inputs of forms.

Feel free to try this out on your wikis, and let us know on the talk page if you run into any issues.

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Hi Kate,

We made a small change to the code which may or may not fix some of these bugs - though not the last one, which I can't reproduce; we'll have to look further into what's going on with that. But I would recommend upgrading TinyMCE and trying it again.

-Yaron

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 8:10 AM, Katharina Wolkwitz wolkwitz@fh-swf.de wrote:

Hi again,

I've found another bug with TinyMCE: when trying to edit a new category the edit-link in the browser:

http://wiki.fhb.fh-swf.de/wiki/index.php?title=Kategorie: Test&action=tinymceedit&redlink=1

leads to the following errormessage:

Fatal error: Call to undefined method Article::openShowCategory() in /srv/www/htdocs/wiki/includes/EditPage.php on line 3222

Luckily, simply editing the browser-link to:

http://wiki.fhb.fh-swf.de/wiki/index.php?title=Kategorie: Test&action=edit&redlink=1

solves the problem by opening the original editor for the category and it's not a thing that my normal users do every day...

Kate

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This will be very useful for me. Sadly I can do similar thing by writing custom JS.

Martin

Dne ne 25. bře 2018 21:45 uživatel Bri dev@rlyehable.com napsal:

Is there a way to suppress adding a page to a category? This would be especially helpful for user pages and sandbox pages. What I am looking for is something like:

{{sandbox}} {{suppresscat}} or __NOCAT__

{{Foo|Bar}} BlahBlahBlahBlahBlahBlahBlah BlahBlahBlahBlahBlahBlahBlah BlahBlahBlahBlahBlahBlahBlah [[Category:Foo]]

Where [[Category:Foo]] is suppressed and categories from template {{Foo}} are suppressed.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

-Brian

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Works for mine. :) Thanks Brian!

(I was going to just hop over to Wikiapiary and rate it there, but that site is down it seems :( https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Extension:NoCat )

On Mon, 26 Mar 2018, at 8:53 PM, Brian Wolff wrote:

Does https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NoCat work for your purposes?

-- Brian

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 7:43 PM, Bri dev@rlyehable.com wrote:

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Is there a way to suppress adding a page to a category? This would be especially helpful for user pages and sandbox pages. What I am looking for is something like:

{{sandbox}} {{suppresscat}} or __NOCAT__

{{Foo|Bar}} BlahBlahBlahBlahBlahBlahBlah BlahBlahBlahBlahBlahBlahBlah BlahBlahBlahBlahBlahBlahBlah [[Category:Foo]]

Where [[Category:Foo]] is suppressed and categories from template {{Foo}} are suppressed.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

-Brian

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