Hi all, Two months ago, we talked about Extension:Widgets [1] and mediawikiwidgets.org [2] on wikitech-l [3].
Reminder: With Extension:Widgets, external services (Youtube, Facebook...) are added to the parser by writing code (smarty) in the Widget namespace. These Widgets are hosted on mediawikiwidgets.org.
In short, Sergey Chernyshev [4] wondered how we could save this great work. That lead to a discussion about the quality/sustainability of Extension:Widgets. Biggest issues raised were: security (code stored within the wiki pages) and version control (of widgets).
We [5] have been working since on Extension:WidgetsFramework [6]. Inspired by Extension:Widgets, we hope it could be a suitable successor. With Extension:WidgetsFramework, external services are added to the parser like any other MediaWiki extension (php) but the code is factorized and simplified. These Widgets are hosted in Git [7]
See the thorough documentation: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WidgetsFramework
We believe WidgetsFramework is now stable and advanced enough to face the community (and its challenging insights). And here we are, asking: - Do you think this extension has an use and a future for more than just our wiki? - If yes, what is the best way to distribute/manage the codes (framework+widgets) within the community? - If answer is "Git+Gerrit+mediawiki.org", can we get help? Our resources are rather limited and... well... Gerrit scares us a bit :-)
Thank you for your time, Regards. -- [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Widgets [2] http://www.mediawikiwidgets.org [3] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/6379... [4] http://www.sergeychernyshev.com [5] http://www.seizam.com [6] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WidgetsFramework [7] https://github.com/Seizam/seizamcore/tree/master/WikiZam/extensions/WidgetsF... -- Clément Dietschy Seizam Sàrl. 24, rue de Bâle 68300 Saint-Louis (France) tél. +33 6 87 75 99 27 www.seizam.com
Hi Clément!
I think that the project hosting is not an important question _at all_ unless you want your extension to be used in Wikimedia projects. Hosting on github is awesome - there is no bugzilla, there is no gerrit, it's easier for other developer to help you - I don't see any good reason to go to Wikimedia hosting.
I think that to make the transition from Widgets easy for users the following has to be in place:
1) more widgets (ideally - all that Widgets extension has) 2) pain-less converter for users that now use Widgets extension. Ideally - one button to press: "replace my old widgets to WidgetsFramework widgets " ----- Yury Katkov, WikiVote
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Clément Dietschy clement@seizam.com wrote:
Hi all, Two months ago, we talked about Extension:Widgets [1] and mediawikiwidgets.org [2] on wikitech-l [3].
Reminder: With Extension:Widgets, external services (Youtube, Facebook...) are added to the parser by writing code (smarty) in the Widget namespace. These Widgets are hosted on mediawikiwidgets.org.
In short, Sergey Chernyshev [4] wondered how we could save this great work. That lead to a discussion about the quality/sustainability of Extension:Widgets. Biggest issues raised were: security (code stored within the wiki pages) and version control (of widgets).
We [5] have been working since on Extension:WidgetsFramework [6]. Inspired by Extension:Widgets, we hope it could be a suitable successor. With Extension:WidgetsFramework, external services are added to the parser like any other MediaWiki extension (php) but the code is factorized and simplified. These Widgets are hosted in Git [7]
See the thorough documentation: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WidgetsFramework
We believe WidgetsFramework is now stable and advanced enough to face the community (and its challenging insights). And here we are, asking:
- Do you think this extension has an use and a future for more than
just our wiki?
- If yes, what is the best way to distribute/manage the codes
(framework+widgets) within the community?
- If answer is "Git+Gerrit+mediawiki.org", can we get help? Our
resources are rather limited and... well... Gerrit scares us a bit :-)
Thank you for your time, Regards. -- [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Widgets [2] http://www.mediawikiwidgets.org [3] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/6379... [4] http://www.sergeychernyshev.com [5] http://www.seizam.com [6] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WidgetsFramework [7] https://github.com/Seizam/seizamcore/tree/master/WikiZam/extensions/WidgetsF... -- Clément Dietschy Seizam Sàrl. 24, rue de Bâle 68300 Saint-Louis (France) tél. +33 6 87 75 99 27 www.seizam.com
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