2 questions:
1) Is there planned support for WYSIWIG editing, like what you get in yahoo email / gmail / blogger / etc. where you see bold/italic/etc. updated in place? If not, any thoughts on how complex a development task to add this as a hack or extension?
2) Does anyone have a script for doing bulk article upload? For a new wiki, I would like to populate it with 20-30 articles that are already written, but I don't want to have to enter them in manually one at a time.
Thanks!
aventurer2005-1@yahoo.com wrote:
2 questions:
- Is there planned support for WYSIWIG editing, like what you get in
yahoo email / gmail / blogger / etc. where you see bold/italic/etc. updated in place?
Not at present.
While some browsers include tools for WYSIWYG editing of HTML, MediaWiki's markup is not HTML. Adapting such tools would require conversion back and forth, which would probably be lossy and difficult and produce frequently broken, ugly results -- what you see *won't* be what you get.
Other alternatives are likely to be even more difficult and/or would be limited in what they could do or how well they might work (eg, duplicating both the wiki parser and a text editor widget's behavior in JS+HTML; a Java applet might hypothetically be more reliable but there are pitfalls there too, besides the general problem of divergence between parsers and inability for the client to do some things without the server's access to the database).
If you just want a CMS with WYSIWYG editing, I'm sure there are plenty out there to choose from.
- Does anyone have a script for doing bulk article upload? For a new
wiki, I would like to populate it with 20-30 articles that are already written, but I don't want to have to enter them in manually one at a time.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
My brother owns http://EditMe.com - a hosted wiki company. He has a WYSIWIG editor - but his wiki data is HTML based. Even so - it's a pain, it's all JS, browser compatibility, etc., etc.
A really nice free wiki launched recently that has WYSIWIG and very cool data/forms stuff that makes building and reporting on mini-dbs very simple... worth checking out if you're not sticking with mediawiki. http://jot.com/
Most of these sites use some version of http://www.htmlarea.com/ - which is pretty good but definitely not ready for shrink wrapping yet.... which is mostly browser differences (making something like this next to impossible to get perfect). I've worked with their code a lot, it's pretty good but, until browsers come up with a standard I doubt it'll ever be 100% solid.
-ben <- sticking with MediaWiki
On 6/14/05, Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:
aventurer2005-1@yahoo.com wrote:
2 questions:
- Is there planned support for WYSIWIG editing, like what you get in
yahoo email / gmail / blogger / etc. where you see bold/italic/etc. updated in place?
Not at present.
While some browsers include tools for WYSIWYG editing of HTML, MediaWiki's markup is not HTML. Adapting such tools would require conversion back and forth, which would probably be lossy and difficult and produce frequently broken, ugly results -- what you see *won't* be what you get.
Other alternatives are likely to be even more difficult and/or would be limited in what they could do or how well they might work (eg, duplicating both the wiki parser and a text editor widget's behavior in JS+HTML; a Java applet might hypothetically be more reliable but there are pitfalls there too, besides the general problem of divergence between parsers and inability for the client to do some things without the server's access to the database).
If you just want a CMS with WYSIWYG editing, I'm sure there are plenty out there to choose from.
- Does anyone have a script for doing bulk article upload? For a new
wiki, I would like to populate it with 20-30 articles that are already written, but I don't want to have to enter them in manually one at a time.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com http://pobox.com)
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On Tue, 2005-14-06 at 15:06 -0700, aventurer2005-1@yahoo.com wrote:
- Is there planned support for WYSIWIG editing,
There have been some feelers but no plans to support it yet. See here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYG_editor
The key problem is converting to and from wiki markup; it's kind of a hassle to do.
~Evan
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