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Plamen Gradinarov

10 Dec 2004 10 Dec '04

8:52 a.m.

I am using Outlook Express and there is no way to directly read the attachments. I have to use Forward and only then the attachments get clickable. Or to visit the web site of the list. Any hints from Outlook experts?

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Chris W

10 Dec 10 Dec

10:33 a.m.

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The attachments I think you are referring to are digital signatures for the content of the message and don't carry any human readable information. The signature can be used to verify that it really was Brion that sent the message, and that the message has not been tampered with enroute. AFAICT Outlook Express is not capable of verifying these signatures.

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Ashar Voultoiz

10:47 a.m.

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Plamen Gradinarov wrote:

I am using Outlook Express and there is no way to directly read the attachments. I have to use Forward and only then the attachments get clickable. Or to visit the web site of the list. Any hints from Outlook experts?

Hello, iirc microsoft fixed a security issues with attachments by disallowing user to open them. You have to save them on your hard disk and open from there. That's a lame choice though. A possible way to fix it is to use a real email client. I personally owned a license for The-Bat: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/ I am now using Thunderbird: http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Really you should stop using OE as soon as possible, it's not even able to quote messages correctly. cheers, -- Ashar Voultoiz - WP++++ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hashar Servers in trouble ? noc (at) wikimedia (dot) org "This signature is a virus. Copy me in yours to spread it."

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Plamen Gradinarov

9:27 p.m.

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Many thanks. Just installed Thunderbird and this is the first message. Looks very good, indeed. Plamen Ashar Voultoiz wrote:

Plamen Gradinarov wrote:

I am using Outlook Express and there is no way to directly read the attachments. I have to use Forward and only then the attachments get clickable. Or to visit the web site of the list. Any hints from Outlook experts?

Hello, iirc microsoft fixed a security issues with attachments by disallowing user to open them. You have to save them on your hard disk and open from there. That's a lame choice though. A possible way to fix it is to use a real email client. I personally owned a license for The-Bat: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/ I am now using Thunderbird: http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ Really you should stop using OE as soon as possible, it's not even able to quote messages correctly. cheers,

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Ashar Voultoiz

11 Dec 11 Dec

7:11 a.m.

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Plamen Gradinarov wrote:

Many thanks. Just installed Thunderbird and this is the first message. Looks very good, indeed. Plamen

\o/ Good job Plamen ! Welcome in the 21th century ! Maybe MS will make a new outlook express version with longhorn ;o) -- Ashar Voultoiz - WP++++ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hashar Servers in trouble ? noc (at) wikimedia (dot) org "This signature is a virus. Copy me in yours to spread it."

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Paul Johnson

8:03 p.m.

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On Friday 10 December 2004 11:11 pm, Ashar Voultoiz wrote:

Plamen Gradinarov wrote: > Many thanks. Just installed Thunderbird and this is the first

message.

Looks very good, indeed. Plamen

\o/ Good job Plamen ! Welcome in the 21th century ! Maybe MS will make a new outlook express version with longhorn ;o)

You improperly assume that Microsoft, the company itself, isn't slow and stupid. -- Paul Johnson baloo(a)ursine.dyndns.org http://ursine.dyndns.org/

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Plamen Gradinarov

12 Dec 12 Dec

8:07 a.m.

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Paul Johnson wrote:

You improperly assume that Microsoft, the company itself, isn't slow and stupid.

Bulgarians have a wise proverb: Stupid is not the one who eats the cabbage pie, but the one who gives it to him. Greetings, Plamen

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Tim Starling

10 Dec 10 Dec

11 a.m.

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Plamen Gradinarov wrote:

I am using Outlook Express and there is no way to directly read the attachments. I have to use Forward and only then the attachments get clickable. Or to visit the web site of the list. Any hints from Outlook experts?

You can use "view source" (right mouse button on a message, properties, details, message source) but I soon got fed up with that and switched to Thunderbird. Less viruses anyway. -- Tim Starling

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Paul Johnson

4:22 p.m.

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On Friday 10 December 2004 12:52 am, Plamen Gradinarov wrote:

I am using Outlook Express and there is no way to directly read the attachments.

Brion is not sending attachments, he's sending PGP signatures. They are RFC-compliant, Outlook is not. Getting a standards compliant mail reader is the only fix. Sorry. -- Paul Johnson baloo(a)ursine.dyndns.org http://ursine.dyndns.org/

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Brion Vibber

10:19 p.m.

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 10, 2004, at 12:52 AM, Plamen Gradinarov wrote:

I am using Outlook Express and there is no way to directly read the attachments. I have to use Forward and only then the attachments get clickable. Or to visit the web site of the list.

Sorry, Outlook kinda sucks and doesn't understand PGP-signed e-mails in the standard MIME format, so it mistakenly presents the message as an attachment. I'll try to remember to post in the old ugly ASCIIfied format... - -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

...PGP SIGNATURE...

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBuiDkwRnhpk1wk44RAvfPAKCuAv6DfRZauhJoc5gi93lZ3+ax9gCgmbN2 vnwmQglXNoqNJKYrUqbH/wg= =qZ+g -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Paul Johnson

11:06 p.m.

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On Friday 10 December 2004 2:19 pm, Brion Vibber wrote:

On Dec 10, 2004, at 12:52 AM, Plamen Gradinarov wrote:

I am using Outlook Express and there is no way to directly read the attachments. I have to use Forward and only then the attachments get clickable. Or to visit the web site of the list.

Sorry, Outlook kinda sucks and doesn't understand PGP-signed e-mails in the standard MIME format, so it mistakenly presents the message as an attachment. I'll try to remember to post in the old ugly ASCIIfied format...

Looks like that won't be needed after all. Original poster decided to go with a better mail reader. -- Paul Johnson baloo(a)ursine.dyndns.org http://ursine.dyndns.org/

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Ashar Voultoiz
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