First of all, I would like to give a big thank you to everyone who has put time into making WikiMedia work - I am impressed by how much has been achieved.
I would like however to ask if it would be possible to make it easier to find relevant forums for asking questions. Some background - my interest is in running a mediawiki installation - and I have been having a some problems. I therefore started to look for forums to see if others had had similar problems, but had difficulty finding where to go.
I tried looking on the mediawiki site, since that seemed most appropriate, and while the link to meta.wikimedia FAQ is helpful, I couldn't find forums. At some point I came across listinfo - http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo, but I couldn't work out which was the correct forum - I didn't want to bore people working on the guts of mediawiki with my installation problems :-) - and having chosen one (mediawiki-l), I then had to work out how to view it (which I failed to achieve!).
I did however find a way of posting a question, but for some reason it did not carry with it the fact that I had subscribed (I am not sure that this one will, either!), and it therefore had to be reviewed and forwarded (which Brion kindly did). It was then posted to a different forum from the one I was expecting (I had in the meantime discovered gmane), so I wasn't aware that Brion (again, thank you) had already posted the answer that I needed.
Since I am still trying to work out some of the details of my installation I am now posting to this group (http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki), and I would like to know whether it is the right one for these questions. If it is, then I will put in a link on the mediawiki website to that effect (provided no-one objects). In addition it would be great if the "mail.wikipedia.org Mailing Lists" also made it clear where people with questions about installation should go (and maybe other categories as well).
Incidentally - the gmane interface to the list looks as though it ought to be great, but I find that, in addition to me finding it difficult to find the relevant forums, it does not appear to do searches very well. Is that others' experience as well, or am I just doing something wrong?
Regards,
Andrew
Andrew Mole wrote:
First of all, I would like to give a big thank you to everyone who has put time into making WikiMedia work - I am impressed by how much has been achieved.
You almost got it: WikiMedia is the foundation running several wikiprojects including WikiPedia. I believe you have made MediaWiki (the software run) :)
<snip "cant find a forum"> We have no forum, instead we use mailing lists which are also registered on gname.org which then provide a nntp/blog/forum interface based on mails by users.
<snip "link to mailing list hard to find"> I have changed the "Mailing lists" link on www.mediawiki.org and it now points directly on the list page: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
Incidentally - the gmane interface to the list looks as though it ought to be great, but I find that, in addition to me finding it difficult to find the relevant forums, it does not appear to do searches very well. Is that others' experience as well, or am I just doing something wrong?
Maybe search is broken on gmane actually ? We do not manage that service, so there is little for us to say about it :o)
Meantime, you can have a look at our FAQ: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FAQ
Welcome on the mailing list !
On 19/08/05, Ashar Voultoiz hashar@altern.org wrote:
Incidentally - the gmane interface to the list looks as though it ought to be great, but I find that, in addition to me finding it difficult to find the relevant forums, it does not appear to do searches very well. Is that others' experience as well, or am I just doing something wrong?
Maybe search is broken on gmane actually ? We do not manage that service, so there is little for us to say about it :o)
An additional note on which, since this tends not to occur to people: you can search the list archives using Google (or Yahoo! or whatever) by restricting the search to the "mail.wikipedia.org" server, using "site:mail.wikipedia.org" - e.g.
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amail.wikipedia.org+archive+search
you can even restrict to one list, it seems, using "site:mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l" - e.g.
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amail.wikipedia.org%2Fpipermail%2Fmedia...
On 18/08/05, Andrew Mole andrew.mole@gmail.com wrote:
Since I am still trying to work out some of the details of my installation I am now posting to this group (http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki),
Quick note to anyone who can edit the mailman description pages: the descriptions of mediawiki-l and mediawiki-announce do not link to the appropriate Gmane pages. i.e. http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l => http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki and http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce => http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki.announce
Don't forget there is also the chat channel. Allot of my questions were answer by asking on #mediawiki at irc.freenode.net. Go check there out. :)
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Andrew Mole wrote:
First of all, I would like to give a big thank you to everyone who has put time into making WikiMedia work - I am impressed by how much has been achieved.
I would like however to ask if it would be possible to make it easier to find relevant forums for asking questions. Some background - my interest is in running a mediawiki installation - and I have been having a some problems. I therefore started to look for forums to see if others had had similar problems, but had difficulty finding where to go.
I tried looking on the mediawiki site, since that seemed most appropriate, and while the link to meta.wikimedia FAQ is helpful, I couldn't find forums. At some point I came across listinfo - http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo, but I couldn't work out which was the correct forum - I didn't want to bore people working on the guts of mediawiki with my installation problems :-) - and having chosen one (mediawiki-l), I then had to work out how to view it (which I failed to achieve!).
I did however find a way of posting a question, but for some reason it did not carry with it the fact that I had subscribed (I am not sure that this one will, either!), and it therefore had to be reviewed and forwarded (which Brion kindly did). It was then posted to a different forum from the one I was expecting (I had in the meantime discovered gmane), so I wasn't aware that Brion (again, thank you) had already posted the answer that I needed.
Since I am still trying to work out some of the details of my installation I am now posting to this group (http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki), and I would like to know whether it is the right one for these questions. If it is, then I will put in a link on the mediawiki website to that effect (provided no-one objects). In addition it would be great if the "mail.wikipedia.org Mailing Lists" also made it clear where people with questions about installation should go (and maybe other categories as well).
Incidentally - the gmane interface to the list looks as though it ought to be great, but I find that, in addition to me finding it difficult to find the relevant forums, it does not appear to do searches very well. Is that others' experience as well, or am I just doing something wrong?
Regards,
Andrew
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