Oh, I completely agree its valid content, and of course I'm not implying that wiki's will replace excel. My point was specifically related to the problem of getting stubborn people to start using the wiki.
JT
----- Original Message ---- From: Frederik Dohr fdg001@gmx.net To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:34:07 PM Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] corporate wiki: success factors?
Well, if they won't search for the answer via google, they aren't going to search for it in the wiki.
Well, it can be quite challenging to find answers for specific Excel issues via Google. Plus our wiki's database would be a lot smaller than Google's, and its content custom-tailored for frequently recurring issues, so there wouldn't be as many irrelevant results.
The key is not putting up a page on how to modify a doc. The key is putting the doc itself in the wiki. I know this doesn't translate really to spreadsheets, but you get what I'm saying.
Sure, but the workspace is polygamous; there's will always be many different applications, instead of one app to rule them all. And wikis certainly won't replace Excel any time soon. So if the doc itself is help for another app, that's valid wiki content... :)
-- Frederik
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Just like its sometimes hard to get people to start using a web page full of documentation or other information. That's why I think the design challenge is similar for both web sites and wikis. You need something compelling to draw people to it and to use it, and in the case of wikis a reason to hit the edit button. This is more in the realm of art (or worse, marketing) than technology.
-Jim
-----Original Message----- From: JTAutry [mailto:jtautry@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:28 AM To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] corporate wiki: success factors?
Oh, I completely agree its valid content, and of course I'm not implying that wiki's will replace excel. My point was specifically related to the problem of getting stubborn people to start using the wiki.
JT
----- Original Message ---- From: Frederik Dohr fdg001@gmx.net To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:34:07 PM Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] corporate wiki: success factors?
Well, if they won't search for the answer via google, they aren't
going to search for it in the wiki. Well, it can be quite challenging to find answers for specific Excel issues via Google. Plus our wiki's database would be a lot smaller than Google's, and its content custom-tailored for frequently recurring issues, so there wouldn't be as many irrelevant results.
The key is not putting up a page on how to modify a doc. The key is
putting the doc itself in the wiki. I know this doesn't translate really to spreadsheets, but you get what I'm saying. Sure, but the workspace is polygamous; there's will always be many different applications, instead of one app to rule them all. And wikis certainly won't replace Excel any time soon. So if the doc itself is help for another app, that's valid wiki content... :)
-- Frederik
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