Hi,
Anyone now going to mediawiki.org will see this image for the logo:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/b/bc/Wiki.png
It's the regular MediaWiki logo with a moustache and a "NOW WITH MUSTACHE" inscription; the change was made this morning.
I'm pretty sure that the change is an excited reference to MediaWiki now making use of this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustache_(template_system)
However, as far as I can tell there's no explanation for the change anywhere in the site. Which means that a fair number of visitors to the site, I would have to guess, will think that it's been hacked. That was my first instinct, at least, when I saw the logo.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being lighthearted on a documentation page, or even with playing around the logo - Google wrote the book on that sort of thing. But this particular change seems like an inept attempt at humor; could it please be reverted?
-Yaron
That person shouldn't even still have a sysop flag... It's reverted now anyway.
On 27 February 2015 at 16:38, Yaron Koren yaron@wikiworks.com wrote:
Hi,
Anyone now going to mediawiki.org will see this image for the logo:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/b/bc/Wiki.png
It's the regular MediaWiki logo with a moustache and a "NOW WITH MUSTACHE" inscription; the change was made this morning.
I'm pretty sure that the change is an excited reference to MediaWiki now making use of this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustache_(template_system)
However, as far as I can tell there's no explanation for the change anywhere in the site. Which means that a fair number of visitors to the site, I would have to guess, will think that it's been hacked. That was my first instinct, at least, when I saw the logo.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being lighthearted on a documentation page, or even with playing around the logo - Google wrote the book on that sort of thing. But this particular change seems like an inept attempt at humor; could it please be reverted?
-Yaron
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On 27/02/15 16:38, Yaron Koren wrote:
Hi,
Anyone now going to mediawiki.org will see this image for the logo:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/b/bc/Wiki.png
It's the regular MediaWiki logo with a moustache and a "NOW WITH MUSTACHE" inscription; the change was made this morning.
I'm pretty sure that the change is an excited reference to MediaWiki now making use of this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustache_(template_system)
However, as far as I can tell there's no explanation for the change anywhere in the site. Which means that a fair number of visitors to the site, I would have to guess, will think that it's been hacked. That was my first instinct, at least, when I saw the logo.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being lighthearted on a documentation page, or even with playing around the logo - Google wrote the book on that sort of thing. But this particular change seems like an inept attempt at humor; could it please be reverted?
-Yaron
Perhaps this is a sign we need to do these things more often. Then it wouldn't come as such a surprise when it happens.
-I
On 2015-02-27 11:37 AM, Isarra Yos wrote:
Perhaps this is a sign we need to do these things more often. Then it wouldn't come as such a surprise when it happens.
And pair them with centralNotice like banners on MW.org, especially on the homepage.
~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/]
A banner would have been nice - then it could also have had a link to some sort of page explaining what the change was, and why it matters. Not too late?
-Yaron On Feb 27, 2015 3:01 PM, "Daniel Friesen" daniel@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote:
On 2015-02-27 11:37 AM, Isarra Yos wrote:
Perhaps this is a sign we need to do these things more often. Then it wouldn't come as such a surprise when it happens.
And pair them with centralNotice like banners on MW.org, especially on the homepage.
~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/]
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It's mostly just a tool for MediaWiki developers rather than MediaWiki users or admins, so probably not worth doing a CentralNotice banner for. It's already been advertised on the Wikitech-l mailing list, so hopefully most of the developers are now aware of it. For anyone interested, here's some documentation about it: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:HTML_templates
Again, I apologize for my lack of impulse control. Once the thought of putting a mustache on the Mediawiki logo enters your mind, it's hard to dispell :)
Kaldari
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Yaron Koren yaron@wikiworks.com wrote:
A banner would have been nice - then it could also have had a link to some sort of page explaining what the change was, and why it matters. Not too late?
-Yaron On Feb 27, 2015 3:01 PM, "Daniel Friesen" daniel@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote:
On 2015-02-27 11:37 AM, Isarra Yos wrote:
Perhaps this is a sign we need to do these things more often. Then it wouldn't come as such a surprise when it happens.
And pair them with centralNotice like banners on MW.org, especially on the homepage.
~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/]
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Oh come the heck on people! [1]
Have everyone forgot about the concept of fun! A little reminder: fun is... fun! [2] I don't recognize the community I started contributing to, are we all so obsessed of staying serious? If we continue down this road, we will next be allowed to celebrate only MediaWiki's transition to Enterprise JavaBeans. And celebrate by allowing one exclamation mark per person on mailing lists? Come onnnnn, there has to be some room for fun, sometimes even silly fun.
And block for that. Really? [3] Already after Kaldari reverted the logo back? [4]
The only problem about the logo itself I see is that due to its home-made mad skillz style, someone might have thought that the site is defaced. But even that does not warrant all the shit Ryan got for it. He worked really hard on bringing us one step colser to the world of modern webdev, and everything he got for that was... Ugh.
---- [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_wikipedias_serious.jpg [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Drunk-kitteh.jpg [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NO_MOAR_BLOCK_lolcat.jpg [4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PiksherDeleted.jpg
I think we can all agree that Ryan could have made the joke much more funny if he had created an RFC[1] for the logo change, held several public IRC meetings about it over a few months until consensus was reached, and then worked with the design department to refine the artwork and the community department to iron out a roll out plan.
Or, maybe not.
Seriously though, Ryan, I'm sorry nobody thought it was humorous.
- Trevor
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Oh come the heck on people! [1]
Have everyone forgot about the concept of fun! A little reminder: fun is... fun! [2] I don't recognize the community I started contributing to, are we all so obsessed of staying serious? If we continue down this road, we will next be allowed to celebrate only MediaWiki's transition to Enterprise JavaBeans. And celebrate by allowing one exclamation mark per person on mailing lists? Come onnnnn, there has to be some room for fun, sometimes even silly fun.
And block for that. Really? [3] Already after Kaldari reverted the logo back? [4]
The only problem about the logo itself I see is that due to its home-made mad skillz style, someone might have thought that the site is defaced. But even that does not warrant all the shit Ryan got for it. He worked really hard on bringing us one step colser to the world of modern webdev, and everything he got for that was... Ugh.
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_wikipedias_serious.jpg [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Drunk-kitteh.jpg [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NO_MOAR_BLOCK_lolcat.jpg [4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PiksherDeleted.jpg _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list To unsubscribe, go to: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
I confess! The vandal was me. I reverted it this morning and hope I didn't cause too much upset. It was only meant to be a playful celebration of a long-awaited milestone, but ^demon has appropriately blocked me for 31 hours. I promise I won't do it again.
Cheers! Kaldari
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Yaron Koren yaron@wikiworks.com wrote:
Hi,
Anyone now going to mediawiki.org will see this image for the logo:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/b/bc/Wiki.png
It's the regular MediaWiki logo with a moustache and a "NOW WITH MUSTACHE" inscription; the change was made this morning.
I'm pretty sure that the change is an excited reference to MediaWiki now making use of this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustache_(template_system)
However, as far as I can tell there's no explanation for the change anywhere in the site. Which means that a fair number of visitors to the site, I would have to guess, will think that it's been hacked. That was my first instinct, at least, when I saw the logo.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being lighthearted on a documentation page, or even with playing around the logo - Google wrote the book on that sort of thing. But this particular change seems like an inept attempt at humor; could it please be reverted?
-Yaron
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