Hi Yaron, thanks for responding and great insights as usual. These are times I wish I had more programming experience.. I’d enthusiastically take on the task of bringing points data entry and query back to page forms. For us Enterprise MW users I would argue that this feature is essential in every enterprise application whether people know it or not, ha ha.. Being able to quickly graphically annotate an image of parking lot or an exit plan or a Road closure .. These are Basic enterprise applications.
I would think you would want to recover this capability in page Foms just to keep all such data collection under one extension. Otherwise some lesser extension will come along and try to do it.
If you do decide to include this in page forms, do you have any thoughts on How many hours of effort to implement?
I’m not sure which I’m more excited about, the prospect of internal maps added to page forms or the project management extension that you mentioned not too long ago. Please don’t ever underestimate your contribution to the enterprise world. It’s amazing. You really have done and continue to do great work.
________________________________ On: 07 June 2019 18:03, "Yaron Koren" <yaron@wikiworks.commailto:yaron@wikiworks.com> wrote: Hi Rich,
It should be noted that the use of images as maps comprises two parts: entering the data, and viewing the data. I don't believe either one is currently possible, though I could be wrong. For data entry, I think the easiest way to add support for it would be to modify either the "openlayers" or "leaflet" input types in Page Forms to allow for using an uploaded image as the map - both OpenLayers and Leaflet inherently allow for such a thing. And for viewing the data - Semantic MediaWiki has a "leaflet" result format (via the Maps extension), while Cargo has an "openlayers" format. Both could similarly be modified to allow for displaying query results on an uploaded image.
It should be noted that, about ten years ago, both entry and viewing of image-based maps were possible, via the extensions then called Semantic Maps and Semantic Forms. This is one of those features that just stopped being supported, due I guess to lack of interest. Which is too bad, because it does seem useful for a lot of different applications. But it never really got usage before. Maybe now is a good time to bring this feature back, if enough people show an interest in it.
I should also note that there's an extension called Semantic Image Annotator:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Image_Annotatorhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ASemantic-5FImage-5FAnnotator&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=egpiK3-6Rd5BIHLcRDv9289t0b1zeob3n51FOs1Rgic&e=
It lets you both add and query data, but the data it deals with is rectangles on an image and not points, so it may not be what you're looking for. Maybe it's fine, though.
-Yaron
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:08 PM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) via Semediawiki-user <semediawiki-mailto:semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.netuser@lists.sourcemailto:user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: Happy Friday - What extension is best for annotating interior floor plans and user maps uploaded as images?
Is anyone doing this? What do people here recommend?
I've been trying to learn how to use the "Maps" extension [1] but it's not clear to me if custom interior maps are possible with Maps.
OpenLayers [2] and Cargo [3] look promising but I don't know how to get started with them for custom interior maps. I dive in and learn it if I knew upfront that they had the capability. Can anyone tell me what they're doing?
/Rich
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Mapshttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AMaps&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=YDLnrlnpCaTM4xDwkcCP-w6JOWSsfSNenhsdT9r4l18&e= [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenLayershttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AOpenLayers&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=7WnewyAkuyVl-Xycjou9OLsteP0GC2eIXpRokqF3ivA&e= [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargohttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ACargo&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=9nWDknMI3lXeGHYGN9lzBe4PgkZ9AZpZeUgPxwmnfz8&e=
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Hi Rich,
I agree that being able to use an image-as-map makes a lot of sense, and it surprised me how little usage it got when it was still a feature, and how little discussion it got afterward. Nonetheless, that's how it went.
Whatever the benefits or drawbacks of another extension coming in and providing this functionality, I doubt it'll happen, given the track record. :)
It actually would be fairly easy to add this feature back in, I think... you would just need to add a parameter like "image layer=" to the relevant tags in Page Forms, Cargo and/or Maps (ideally all three), which would use the functionality that already exists in OpenLayers and Leaflet. It might not take more than a few hours, actually, depending on how complicated the APIs are. But this looks pretty simple, for example:
https://openlayers.org/en/latest/examples/static-image.html
So who knows, maybe your request would be enough to kickstart this feature.
Unrelated to that, it's also great that you're interested in the business process management stuff I mentioned on the mailing list before. I'm still very interested in adding functionality for that, but we'll see how it goes. Thanks!
-Yaron
On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 9:05 AM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) < richard.k.evans@nasa.gov> wrote:
Hi Yaron, thanks for responding and great insights as usual. These are times I wish I had more programming experience.. I’d enthusiastically take on the task of bringing points data entry and query back to page forms. For us Enterprise MW users I would argue that this feature is essential in every enterprise application whether people know it or not, ha ha.. Being able to quickly graphically annotate an image of parking lot or an exit plan or a Road closure .. These are Basic enterprise applications.
I would think you would want to recover this capability in page Foms just to keep all such data collection under one extension. Otherwise some lesser extension will come along and try to do it.
If you do decide to include this in page forms, do you have any thoughts on How many hours of effort to implement?
I’m not sure which I’m more excited about, the prospect of internal maps added to page forms or the project management extension that you mentioned not too long ago. Please don’t ever underestimate your contribution to the enterprise world. It’s amazing. You really have done and continue to do great work.
On: 07 June 2019 18:03, "Yaron Koren" yaron@wikiworks.com wrote:
Hi Rich,
It should be noted that the use of images as maps comprises two parts: entering the data, and viewing the data. I don't believe either one is currently possible, though I could be wrong. For data entry, I think the easiest way to add support for it would be to modify either the "openlayers" or "leaflet" input types in Page Forms to allow for using an uploaded image as the map - both OpenLayers and Leaflet inherently allow for such a thing. And for viewing the data - Semantic MediaWiki has a "leaflet" result format (via the Maps extension), while Cargo has an "openlayers" format. Both could similarly be modified to allow for displaying query results on an uploaded image.
It should be noted that, about ten years ago, both entry and viewing of image-based maps were possible, via the extensions then called Semantic Maps and Semantic Forms. This is one of those features that just stopped being supported, due I guess to lack of interest. Which is too bad, because it does seem useful for a lot of different applications. But it never really got usage before. Maybe now is a good time to bring this feature back, if enough people show an interest in it.
I should also note that there's an extension called Semantic Image Annotator:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Image_Annotator https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ASemantic-5FImage-5FAnnotator&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=egpiK3-6Rd5BIHLcRDv9289t0b1zeob3n51FOs1Rgic&e=
It lets you both add and query data, but the data it deals with is rectangles on an image and not points, so it may not be what you're looking for. Maybe it's fine, though.
-Yaron
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:08 PM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) via Semediawiki-user <semediawiki- semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
Happy Friday - What extension is best for annotating interior floor plans and user maps uploaded as images?
Is anyone doing this? What do people here recommend?
I've been trying to learn how to use the "Maps" extension [1] but it's not clear to me if custom interior maps are possible with Maps.
OpenLayers [2] and Cargo [3] look promising but I don't know how to get started with them for custom interior maps. I dive in and learn it if I knew upfront that they had the capability. Can anyone tell me what they're doing?
/Rich
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AMaps&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=YDLnrlnpCaTM4xDwkcCP-w6JOWSsfSNenhsdT9r4l18&e= [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenLayers https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AOpenLayers&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=7WnewyAkuyVl-Xycjou9OLsteP0GC2eIXpRokqF3ivA&e= [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ACargo&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=9nWDknMI3lXeGHYGN9lzBe4PgkZ9AZpZeUgPxwmnfz8&e=
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Hi Yaron,
Question #1:On the current version of the “Maps” extension for MW 1.31 (v6.0.3), the bottom right option in the “MapEditor” Special Page is “Add Image Overlay”. Is this a remnant of the lost feature that would facilitate custom maps? .. Or does this still function in some other way that I am misunderstanding?
Question #1: Also, I’d like to propose a quick collaboration. I have a very capable programmer that I can have work on this for us, but they aren’t readily familiar with the mediawiki extensions model. If I were to get them setup in github and create a fork of the Maps or Page Forms, or Cargo extension and able to perform pull-requests.. would you have time to answer their questions and tell them how you’d like to see the feature re-implemented? Maybe we can make quick work of this together? And I’d be happy to update the extension manual when done. Thoughts?
/Rich
From: Yaron Koren [mailto:yaron@wikiworks.com] Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 8:36 AM To: Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) richard.k.evans@nasa.gov Cc: semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net; MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Semediawiki-user] interior maps extension
Hi Rich,
I agree that being able to use an image-as-map makes a lot of sense, and it surprised me how little usage it got when it was still a feature, and how little discussion it got afterward. Nonetheless, that's how it went.
Whatever the benefits or drawbacks of another extension coming in and providing this functionality, I doubt it'll happen, given the track record. :)
It actually would be fairly easy to add this feature back in, I think... you would just need to add a parameter like "image layer=" to the relevant tags in Page Forms, Cargo and/or Maps (ideally all three), which would use the functionality that already exists in OpenLayers and Leaflet. It might not take more than a few hours, actually, depending on how complicated the APIs are. But this looks pretty simple, for example:
https://openlayers.org/en/latest/examples/static-image.htmlhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__openlayers.org_en_latest_examples_static-2Dimage.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=rs7XEEBYqvQ_gDzZxSfzlAHsQ5eg3Uj9cOaqyC3ddRs&s=oXBOcx7GFRpVtIz2rvAc5u7-zMiHfJLX0ypV1alRDuo&e=
So who knows, maybe your request would be enough to kickstart this feature.
Unrelated to that, it's also great that you're interested in the business process management stuff I mentioned on the mailing list before. I'm still very interested in adding functionality for that, but we'll see how it goes. Thanks!
-Yaron
On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 9:05 AM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) <richard.k.evans@nasa.govmailto:richard.k.evans@nasa.gov> wrote: Hi Yaron, thanks for responding and great insights as usual. These are times I wish I had more programming experience.. I’d enthusiastically take on the task of bringing points data entry and query back to page forms. For us Enterprise MW users I would argue that this feature is essential in every enterprise application whether people know it or not, ha ha.. Being able to quickly graphically annotate an image of parking lot or an exit plan or a Road closure .. These are Basic enterprise applications.
I would think you would want to recover this capability in page Foms just to keep all such data collection under one extension. Otherwise some lesser extension will come along and try to do it.
If you do decide to include this in page forms, do you have any thoughts on How many hours of effort to implement?
I’m not sure which I’m more excited about, the prospect of internal maps added to page forms or the project management extension that you mentioned not too long ago. Please don’t ever underestimate your contribution to the enterprise world. It’s amazing. You really have done and continue to do great work.
________________________________ On: 07 June 2019 18:03, "Yaron Koren" <yaron@wikiworks.commailto:yaron@wikiworks.com> wrote:
Hi Rich,
It should be noted that the use of images as maps comprises two parts: entering the data, and viewing the data. I don't believe either one is currently possible, though I could be wrong. For data entry, I think the easiest way to add support for it would be to modify either the "openlayers" or "leaflet" input types in Page Forms to allow for using an uploaded image as the map - both OpenLayers and Leaflet inherently allow for such a thing. And for viewing the data - Semantic MediaWiki has a "leaflet" result format (via the Maps extension), while Cargo has an "openlayers" format. Both could similarly be modified to allow for displaying query results on an uploaded image.
It should be noted that, about ten years ago, both entry and viewing of image-based maps were possible, via the extensions then called Semantic Maps and Semantic Forms. This is one of those features that just stopped being supported, due I guess to lack of interest. Which is too bad, because it does seem useful for a lot of different applications. But it never really got usage before. Maybe now is a good time to bring this feature back, if enough people show an interest in it.
I should also note that there's an extension called Semantic Image Annotator:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Image_Annotatorhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ASemantic-5FImage-5FAnnotator&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=egpiK3-6Rd5BIHLcRDv9289t0b1zeob3n51FOs1Rgic&e=
It lets you both add and query data, but the data it deals with is rectangles on an image and not points, so it may not be what you're looking for. Maybe it's fine, though.
-Yaron
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:08 PM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) via Semediawiki-user <semediawiki-mailto:semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.netuser@lists.sourcemailto:user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__forge.net&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=rs7XEEBYqvQ_gDzZxSfzlAHsQ5eg3Uj9cOaqyC3ddRs&s=E7rwOIeMLtwtzXCc4z2p-qCPhcaSD_jppzYRYCRiOyw&e=> wrote: Happy Friday - What extension is best for annotating interior floor plans and user maps uploaded as images?
Is anyone doing this? What do people here recommend?
I've been trying to learn how to use the "Maps" extension [1] but it's not clear to me if custom interior maps are possible with Maps.
OpenLayers [2] and Cargo [3] look promising but I don't know how to get started with them for custom interior maps. I dive in and learn it if I knew upfront that they had the capability. Can anyone tell me what they're doing?
/Rich
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Mapshttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AMaps&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=YDLnrlnpCaTM4xDwkcCP-w6JOWSsfSNenhsdT9r4l18&e= [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenLayershttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AOpenLayers&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=7WnewyAkuyVl-Xycjou9OLsteP0GC2eIXpRokqF3ivA&e= [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargohttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ACargo&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=9nWDknMI3lXeGHYGN9lzBe4PgkZ9AZpZeUgPxwmnfz8&e=
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*derp* questions #1 and "#2"...
-----Original Message----- From: MediaWiki-l [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 10:51 AM To: Yaron Koren yaron@wikiworks.com Cc: semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net; MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Mcgillivray, Alexis M. (GRC-H000) alexis.m.mcgillivray@nasa.gov Subject: [non-nasa source] Re: [MediaWiki-l] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Semediawiki-user] interior maps extension
Hi Yaron,
Question #1:On the current version of the “Maps” extension for MW 1.31 (v6.0.3), the bottom right option in the “MapEditor” Special Page is “Add Image Overlay”. Is this a remnant of the lost feature that would facilitate custom maps? .. Or does this still function in some other way that I am misunderstanding?
Question #1: Also, I’d like to propose a quick collaboration. I have a very capable programmer that I can have work on this for us, but they aren’t readily familiar with the mediawiki extensions model. If I were to get them setup in github and create a fork of the Maps or Page Forms, or Cargo extension and able to perform pull-requests.. would you have time to answer their questions and tell them how you’d like to see the feature re-implemented? Maybe we can make quick work of this together? And I’d be happy to update the extension manual when done. Thoughts?
/Rich
From: Yaron Koren [mailto:yaron@wikiworks.com] Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 8:36 AM To: Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) richard.k.evans@nasa.gov Cc: semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net; MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Semediawiki-user] interior maps extension
Hi Rich,
I agree that being able to use an image-as-map makes a lot of sense, and it surprised me how little usage it got when it was still a feature, and how little discussion it got afterward. Nonetheless, that's how it went.
Whatever the benefits or drawbacks of another extension coming in and providing this functionality, I doubt it'll happen, given the track record. :)
It actually would be fairly easy to add this feature back in, I think... you would just need to add a parameter like "image layer=" to the relevant tags in Page Forms, Cargo and/or Maps (ideally all three), which would use the functionality that already exists in OpenLayers and Leaflet. It might not take more than a few hours, actually, depending on how complicated the APIs are. But this looks pretty simple, for example:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__openlayers.org_en_lates...https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__openlayers.org_en_latest_examples_static-2Dimage.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=rs7XEEBYqvQ_gDzZxSfzlAHsQ5eg3Uj9cOaqyC3ddRs&s=oXBOcx7GFRpVtIz2rvAc5u7-zMiHfJLX0ypV1alRDuo&e=
So who knows, maybe your request would be enough to kickstart this feature.
Unrelated to that, it's also great that you're interested in the business process management stuff I mentioned on the mailing list before. I'm still very interested in adding functionality for that, but we'll see how it goes. Thanks!
-Yaron
On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 9:05 AM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) <richard.k.evans@nasa.govmailto:richard.k.evans@nasa.gov> wrote: Hi Yaron, thanks for responding and great insights as usual. These are times I wish I had more programming experience.. I’d enthusiastically take on the task of bringing points data entry and query back to page forms. For us Enterprise MW users I would argue that this feature is essential in every enterprise application whether people know it or not, ha ha.. Being able to quickly graphically annotate an image of parking lot or an exit plan or a Road closure .. These are Basic enterprise applications.
I would think you would want to recover this capability in page Foms just to keep all such data collection under one extension. Otherwise some lesser extension will come along and try to do it.
If you do decide to include this in page forms, do you have any thoughts on How many hours of effort to implement?
I’m not sure which I’m more excited about, the prospect of internal maps added to page forms or the project management extension that you mentioned not too long ago. Please don’t ever underestimate your contribution to the enterprise world. It’s amazing. You really have done and continue to do great work.
________________________________ On: 07 June 2019 18:03, "Yaron Koren" <yaron@wikiworks.commailto:yaron@wikiworks.com> wrote:
Hi Rich,
It should be noted that the use of images as maps comprises two parts: entering the data, and viewing the data. I don't believe either one is currently possible, though I could be wrong. For data entry, I think the easiest way to add support for it would be to modify either the "openlayers" or "leaflet" input types in Page Forms to allow for using an uploaded image as the map - both OpenLayers and Leaflet inherently allow for such a thing. And for viewing the data - Semantic MediaWiki has a "leaflet" result format (via the Maps extension), while Cargo has an "openlayers" format. Both could similarly be modified to allow for displaying query results on an uploaded image.
It should be noted that, about ten years ago, both entry and viewing of image-based maps were possible, via the extensions then called Semantic Maps and Semantic Forms. This is one of those features that just stopped being supported, due I guess to lack of interest. Which is too bad, because it does seem useful for a lot of different applications. But it never really got usage before. Maybe now is a good time to bring this feature back, if enough people show an interest in it.
I should also note that there's an extension called Semantic Image Annotator:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_...https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ASemantic-5FImage-5FAnnotator&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=egpiK3-6Rd5BIHLcRDv9289t0b1zeob3n51FOs1Rgic&e=
It lets you both add and query data, but the data it deals with is rectangles on an image and not points, so it may not be what you're looking for. Maybe it's fine, though.
-Yaron
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Is anyone doing this? What do people here recommend?
I've been trying to learn how to use the "Maps" extension [1] but it's not clear to me if custom interior maps are possible with Maps.
OpenLayers [2] and Cargo [3] look promising but I don't know how to get started with them for custom interior maps. I dive in and learn it if I knew upfront that they had the capability. Can anyone tell me what they're doing?
/Rich
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Hi Rich,
I thought maybe you meant that both questions were equally important. :)
I think "Add Image Overlay" is a Google Maps feature that's not related to what we're talking about. I could be wrong, though.
As for the specifics of implementing this feature - we should probably talk about this "offline". But I'm glad you asked about it publicly, so that I can state that I'm very happy to help anyone who wants to improve any of my extensions. And I'm certainly looking forward to having this useful capability be supported again.
-Yaron
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:56 AM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) < richard.k.evans@nasa.gov> wrote:
*derp* questions #1 and "#2"...
-----Original Message----- From: MediaWiki-l [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 10:51 AM To: Yaron Koren yaron@wikiworks.com Cc: semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net; MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Mcgillivray, Alexis M. (GRC-H000) alexis.m.mcgillivray@nasa.gov Subject: [non-nasa source] Re: [MediaWiki-l] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Semediawiki-user] interior maps extension
Hi Yaron,
Question #1:On the current version of the “Maps” extension for MW 1.31 (v6.0.3), the bottom right option in the “MapEditor” Special Page is “Add Image Overlay”. Is this a remnant of the lost feature that would facilitate custom maps? .. Or does this still function in some other way that I am misunderstanding?
Question #1: Also, I’d like to propose a quick collaboration. I have a very capable programmer that I can have work on this for us, but they aren’t readily familiar with the mediawiki extensions model. If I were to get them setup in github and create a fork of the Maps or Page Forms, or Cargo extension and able to perform pull-requests.. would you have time to answer their questions and tell them how you’d like to see the feature re-implemented? Maybe we can make quick work of this together? And I’d be happy to update the extension manual when done. Thoughts?
/Rich
Hi,
yes, I think there should be the possibility in maps to have custom images instead of an actual map where you can display points. I have never used this myself, though.
There is another option: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap
cheers, Bernhard
----- Am 8. Jun 2019 um 15:05 schrieb semediawiki-user semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net:
Hi Yaron, thanks for responding and great insights as usual. These are times I wish I had more programming experience.. I’d enthusiastically take on the task of bringing points data entry and query back to page forms. For us Enterprise MW users I would argue that this feature is essential in every enterprise application whether people know it or not, ha ha.. Being able to quickly graphically annotate an image of parking lot or an exit plan or a Road closure .. These are Basic enterprise applications.
I would think you would want to recover this capability in page Foms just to keep all such data collection under one extension. Otherwise some lesser extension will come along and try to do it.
If you do decide to include this in page forms, do you have any thoughts on How many hours of effort to implement?
I’m not sure which I’m more excited about, the prospect of internal maps added to page forms or the project management extension that you mentioned not too long ago. Please don’t ever underestimate your contribution to the enterprise world. It’s amazing. You really have done and continue to do great work.
On: 07 June 2019 18:03, "Yaron Koren" <yaron@wikiworks.commailto:yaron@wikiworks.com> wrote: Hi Rich,
It should be noted that the use of images as maps comprises two parts: entering the data, and viewing the data. I don't believe either one is currently possible, though I could be wrong. For data entry, I think the easiest way to add support for it would be to modify either the "openlayers" or "leaflet" input types in Page Forms to allow for using an uploaded image as the map - both OpenLayers and Leaflet inherently allow for such a thing. And for viewing the data - Semantic MediaWiki has a "leaflet" result format (via the Maps extension), while Cargo has an "openlayers" format. Both could similarly be modified to allow for displaying query results on an uploaded image.
It should be noted that, about ten years ago, both entry and viewing of image-based maps were possible, via the extensions then called Semantic Maps and Semantic Forms. This is one of those features that just stopped being supported, due I guess to lack of interest. Which is too bad, because it does seem useful for a lot of different applications. But it never really got usage before. Maybe now is a good time to bring this feature back, if enough people show an interest in it.
I should also note that there's an extension called Semantic Image Annotator:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Image_Annotatorhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ASemantic-5FImage-5FAnnotator&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=egpiK3-6Rd5BIHLcRDv9289t0b1zeob3n51FOs1Rgic&e=
It lets you both add and query data, but the data it deals with is rectangles on an image and not points, so it may not be what you're looking for. Maybe it's fine, though.
-Yaron
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:08 PM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) via Semediawiki-user <semediawiki-mailto:semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.netuser@lists.sourcemailto:user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: Happy Friday - What extension is best for annotating interior floor plans and user maps uploaded as images?
Is anyone doing this? What do people here recommend?
I've been trying to learn how to use the "Maps" extension [1] but it's not clear to me if custom interior maps are possible with Maps.
OpenLayers [2] and Cargo [3] look promising but I don't know how to get started with them for custom interior maps. I dive in and learn it if I knew upfront that they had the capability. Can anyone tell me what they're doing?
/Rich
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Mapshttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AMaps&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=YDLnrlnpCaTM4xDwkcCP-w6JOWSsfSNenhsdT9r4l18&e= [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenLayershttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AOpenLayers&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=7WnewyAkuyVl-Xycjou9OLsteP0GC2eIXpRokqF3ivA&e= [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargohttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ACargo&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=9nWDknMI3lXeGHYGN9lzBe4PgkZ9AZpZeUgPxwmnfz8&e=
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Hi all,
I use ImageMap [0] like Krabina suggested to do something similar. In my opinion, ImageMap has some issues that hopefully get resolved like "mystery meat navigation" [1][2] and no Visual Editor support or even on-wiki editing, although there are some ways [3]. In my experience, this has prevented all but the most dedicated users from using ImageMap and forces them to use external tools if they do [4].
I did run across an interesting use of "maps" on a video game website [5] that seems to be just overlaying an animated gif over a map at a coordinate.
[0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_map#Creation_and_use [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_meat_navigation [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dapete/ImageMapEdit#English [4] http://maschek.hu/imagemap/imgmap/ [5] https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Template:Tooltip_Coords
Regards, Bryan
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 7:10 AM Krabina Bernhard krabina@kdz.or.at wrote:
Hi,
yes, I think there should be the possibility in maps to have custom images instead of an actual map where you can display points. I have never used this myself, though.
There is another option: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap
cheers, Bernhard
----- Am 8. Jun 2019 um 15:05 schrieb semediawiki-user semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net:
Hi Yaron, thanks for responding and great insights as usual. These are
times I
wish I had more programming experience.. I’d enthusiastically take on
the task
of bringing points data entry and query back to page forms. For us
Enterprise
MW users I would argue that this feature is essential in every enterprise application whether people know it or not, ha ha.. Being able to quickly graphically annotate an image of parking lot or an exit plan or a Road
closure
.. These are Basic enterprise applications.
I would think you would want to recover this capability in page Foms
just to
keep all such data collection under one extension. Otherwise some lesser extension will come along and try to do it.
If you do decide to include this in page forms, do you have any thoughts
on How
many hours of effort to implement?
I’m not sure which I’m more excited about, the prospect of internal maps
added
to page forms or the project management extension that you mentioned not
too
long ago. Please don’t ever underestimate your contribution to the
enterprise
world. It’s amazing. You really have done and continue to do great work.
On: 07 June 2019 18:03, "Yaron Koren" <yaron@wikiworks.commailto:yaron@wikiworks.com> wrote: Hi Rich,
It should be noted that the use of images as maps comprises two parts:
entering
the data, and viewing the data. I don't believe either one is currently possible, though I could be wrong. For data entry, I think the easiest
way to
add support for it would be to modify either the "openlayers" or
"leaflet"
input types in Page Forms to allow for using an uploaded image as the
map -
both OpenLayers and Leaflet inherently allow for such a thing. And for
viewing
the data - Semantic MediaWiki has a "leaflet" result format (via the Maps extension), while Cargo has an "openlayers" format. Both could similarly
be
modified to allow for displaying query results on an uploaded image.
It should be noted that, about ten years ago, both entry and viewing of image-based maps were possible, via the extensions then called Semantic
Maps
and Semantic Forms. This is one of those features that just stopped being supported, due I guess to lack of interest. Which is too bad, because it
does
seem useful for a lot of different applications. But it never really got
usage
before. Maybe now is a good time to bring this feature back, if enough
people
show an interest in it.
I should also note that there's an extension called Semantic Image
Annotator:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Image_Annotator<
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_...
It lets you both add and query data, but the data it deals with is
rectangles on
an image and not points, so it may not be what you're looking for. Maybe
it's
fine, though.
-Yaron
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:08 PM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) via Semediawiki-user <semediawiki-<mailto:semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net user@lists.sourcemailto:user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: Happy Friday - What extension is best for annotating interior floor
plans and
user maps uploaded as images?
Is anyone doing this? What do people here recommend?
I've been trying to learn how to use the "Maps" extension [1] but it's
not clear
to me if custom interior maps are possible with Maps.
OpenLayers [2] and Cargo [3] look promising but I don't know how to get
started
with them for custom interior maps. I dive in and learn it if I knew
upfront
that they had the capability. Can anyone tell me what they're doing?
/Rich
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Hi all,
Please know that I am working (with Yaron) to update the Page Forms extension to provide a new field tag that will support the overlay of points and shapes annotations over an existing image. We will announce this new capability here when it is available. My hope is to announce it by next week. Wish us luck.
/Rich
From: Bryan Hilderbrand [mailto:bryanh@tegnosis.wiki] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 12:50 PM To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) richard.k.evans@nasa.gov; Yaron Koren yaron@wikiworks.com; semediawiki-user semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [MediaWiki-l] [Semediawiki-user] interior maps extension
Hi all,
I use ImageMap [0] like Krabina suggested to do something similar. In my opinion, ImageMap has some issues that hopefully get resolved like "mystery meat navigation" [1][2] and no Visual Editor support or even on-wiki editing, although there are some ways [3]. In my experience, this has prevented all but the most dedicated users from using ImageMap and forces them to use external tools if they do [4].
I did run across an interesting use of "maps" on a video game website [5] that seems to be just overlaying an animated gif over a map at a coordinate.
[0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMaphttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AImageMap&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=T3v2wSo1tK8nJq83QqVHaNy2MORZzXfiFPv2fZH4ul8&e= [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_map#Creation_and_usehttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Image-5Fmap-23Creation-5Fand-5Fuse&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=gYzYibsD1qP1V4_FE2PmXeF5nEThrOH6twAD_-7YQLY&e= [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_meat_navigationhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Mystery-5Fmeat-5Fnavigation&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=LQwoutxIbp0qdLg6kKz2bu-ifqv9Mt42V9BWx7LTcaA&e= [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dapete/ImageMapEdit#Englishhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__meta.wikimedia.org_wiki_User-3ADapete_ImageMapEdit-23English&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=NscEwxlPNX2LSuTQwNMYW3JUhxRBVkaTUxTCeEgQj9g&e= [4] http://maschek.hu/imagemap/imgmap/https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__maschek.hu_imagemap_imgmap_&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=5PnnynJVRPyhbSdQuznT1egSrvWUQHYlULUCAG8TUfw&e= [5] https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Template:Tooltip_Coordshttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lotro-2Dwiki.com_index.php_Template-3ATooltip-5FCoords&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=JPwwtA-m2UgM5YA7yUqqebM5VmWPLE3IxhF9Vff0GpA&e=
Regards, Bryan
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 7:10 AM Krabina Bernhard <krabina@kdz.or.atmailto:krabina@kdz.or.at> wrote: Hi,
yes, I think there should be the possibility in maps to have custom images instead of an actual map where you can display points. I have never used this myself, though.
There is another option: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMaphttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AImageMap&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=T3v2wSo1tK8nJq83QqVHaNy2MORZzXfiFPv2fZH4ul8&e=
cheers, Bernhard
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Hi Yaron, thanks for responding and great insights as usual. These are times I wish I had more programming experience.. I’d enthusiastically take on the task of bringing points data entry and query back to page forms. For us Enterprise MW users I would argue that this feature is essential in every enterprise application whether people know it or not, ha ha.. Being able to quickly graphically annotate an image of parking lot or an exit plan or a Road closure .. These are Basic enterprise applications.
I would think you would want to recover this capability in page Foms just to keep all such data collection under one extension. Otherwise some lesser extension will come along and try to do it.
If you do decide to include this in page forms, do you have any thoughts on How many hours of effort to implement?
I’m not sure which I’m more excited about, the prospect of internal maps added to page forms or the project management extension that you mentioned not too long ago. Please don’t ever underestimate your contribution to the enterprise world. It’s amazing. You really have done and continue to do great work.
On: 07 June 2019 18:03, "Yaron Koren" <yaron@wikiworks.commailto:yaron@wikiworks.com<mailto:yaron@wikiworks.commailto:yaron@wikiworks.com>> wrote: Hi Rich,
It should be noted that the use of images as maps comprises two parts: entering the data, and viewing the data. I don't believe either one is currently possible, though I could be wrong. For data entry, I think the easiest way to add support for it would be to modify either the "openlayers" or "leaflet" input types in Page Forms to allow for using an uploaded image as the map - both OpenLayers and Leaflet inherently allow for such a thing. And for viewing the data - Semantic MediaWiki has a "leaflet" result format (via the Maps extension), while Cargo has an "openlayers" format. Both could similarly be modified to allow for displaying query results on an uploaded image.
It should be noted that, about ten years ago, both entry and viewing of image-based maps were possible, via the extensions then called Semantic Maps and Semantic Forms. This is one of those features that just stopped being supported, due I guess to lack of interest. Which is too bad, because it does seem useful for a lot of different applications. But it never really got usage before. Maybe now is a good time to bring this feature back, if enough people show an interest in it.
I should also note that there's an extension called Semantic Image Annotator:
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It lets you both add and query data, but the data it deals with is rectangles on an image and not points, so it may not be what you're looking for. Maybe it's fine, though.
-Yaron
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Is anyone doing this? What do people here recommend?
I've been trying to learn how to use the "Maps" extension [1] but it's not clear to me if custom interior maps are possible with Maps.
OpenLayers [2] and Cargo [3] look promising but I don't know how to get started with them for custom interior maps. I dive in and learn it if I knew upfront that they had the capability. Can anyone tell me what they're doing?
/Rich
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