There was some thought (I think, by Proteus of GetWiki) that this could be accomplished through creating namespaces for each language. We played around with this a bit, but now I am out of touch with him.
Fred
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Coghlan [mailto:pcoghlan@usa.net] Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2007 10:45 AM To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list' Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Supporting multiple language articles - URL formation
I need to support multiple languages on my wiki. I am trying at all costs to avoid multiple MW installations such as at wikipedia using sub domains. Mainly because I allow everyone to see everything. This way an Italian speaker sees both Italian and English articles BUT they can specify only Italian articles in their search.
I have sorted out the ability to automatically change the interface language per user from Drupal. I am now looking at URL formation, ensuring different and user generated URLs exist for the same articles in multiple languages.
For example, the English article about Milan, Italy would be at /Milan%2C_Italy. The Italian version would be different in that it would be at /Milano%2C_Italia. This doesn't represent a problem as they are different.
However, the article about India will be the same in both languages, /India.
Has anyone tackled this issue? I am thinking that possibly a namespace might be helpful?
Something like:
Italiano:Milano%2Italia Milan%2Italy
Italiano:India India
Would this work? Would an Italian speaker who is looking at the /Italia page and then creates a sub page called /Milano have it automatically go into the Italiano namespace?
I am not even sure if I am making myself clear on this issue. If not let me know.
Thanks, Paul
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MW has a limited support for multiple languages. The better strategy to have multiple languages is like they used in meta.wikipedia.org
See also PolyGlot extension on mediawiki.org for automatic redirections.
2007/4/1, Fred Bauder fredbaud@waterwiki.info:
There was some thought (I think, by Proteus of GetWiki) that this could be accomplished through creating namespaces for each language. We played around with this a bit, but now I am out of touch with him.
Fred
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Coghlan [mailto:pcoghlan@usa.net] Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2007 10:45 AM To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list' Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Supporting multiple language articles - URL formation
I need to support multiple languages on my wiki. I am trying at all costs to avoid multiple MW installations such as at wikipedia using sub domains. Mainly because I allow everyone to see everything. This way an Italian speaker sees both Italian and English articles BUT they can specify only Italian articles in their search.
I have sorted out the ability to automatically change the interface language per user from Drupal. I am now looking at URL formation, ensuring different and user generated URLs exist for the same articles in multiple languages.
For example, the English article about Milan, Italy would be at /Milan%2C_Italy. The Italian version would be different in that it would be at /Milano%2C_Italia. This doesn't represent a problem as they are different.
However, the article about India will be the same in both languages, /India.
Has anyone tackled this issue? I am thinking that possibly a namespace might be helpful?
Something like:
Italiano:Milano%2Italia Milan%2Italy
Italiano:India India
Would this work? Would an Italian speaker who is looking at the /Italia page and then creates a sub page called /Milano have it automatically go into the Italiano namespace?
I am not even sure if I am making myself clear on this issue. If not let me know.
Thanks, Paul
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Thanks Javier but the wikipedia model means the x language speakers don't see content in the y language. I am looking for all people to be able to find content in multiple languages.
Paul
On 4/1/07 3:39 PM, "Javier Valcarce García" javier.valcarce@gmail.com wrote:
MW has a limited support for multiple languages. The better strategy to have multiple languages is like they used in meta.wikipedia.org
See also PolyGlot extension on mediawiki.org for automatic redirections.
2007/4/1, Fred Bauder fredbaud@waterwiki.info:
There was some thought (I think, by Proteus of GetWiki) that this could be accomplished through creating namespaces for each language. We played around with this a bit, but now I am out of touch with him.
Fred
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Coghlan [mailto:pcoghlan@usa.net] Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2007 10:45 AM To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list' Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Supporting multiple language articles - URL formation
I need to support multiple languages on my wiki. I am trying at all costs to avoid multiple MW installations such as at wikipedia using sub domains. Mainly because I allow everyone to see everything. This way an Italian speaker sees both Italian and English articles BUT they can specify only Italian articles in their search.
I have sorted out the ability to automatically change the interface language per user from Drupal. I am now looking at URL formation, ensuring different and user generated URLs exist for the same articles in multiple languages.
For example, the English article about Milan, Italy would be at /Milan%2C_Italy. The Italian version would be different in that it would be at /Milano%2C_Italia. This doesn't represent a problem as they are different.
However, the article about India will be the same in both languages, /India.
Has anyone tackled this issue? I am thinking that possibly a namespace might be helpful?
Something like:
Italiano:Milano%2Italia Milan%2Italy
Italiano:India India
Would this work? Would an Italian speaker who is looking at the /Italia page and then creates a sub page called /Milano have it automatically go into the Italiano namespace?
I am not even sure if I am making myself clear on this issue. If not let me know.
Thanks, Paul
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Hello Paul,
You can configure your search engine to use multiple databases. This is easily possible using an external search engine such as Lucene. This would allow you to have multiple subdomains but allow for the search to be the same on all of them.
I hope that this helps, Kasimir
On 4/1/07, Paul Coghlan pcoghlan@usa.net wrote:
Thanks Javier but the wikipedia model means the x language speakers don't see content in the y language. I am looking for all people to be able to find content in multiple languages.
Paul
On 4/1/07 3:39 PM, "Javier Valcarce García" javier.valcarce@gmail.com wrote:
MW has a limited support for multiple languages. The better strategy to have multiple languages is like they used in meta.wikipedia.org
See also PolyGlot extension on mediawiki.org for automatic redirections.
2007/4/1, Fred Bauder fredbaud@waterwiki.info:
There was some thought (I think, by Proteus of GetWiki) that this could be accomplished through creating namespaces for each language. We played around with this a bit, but now I am out of touch with him.
Fred
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Coghlan [mailto:pcoghlan@usa.net] Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2007 10:45 AM To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list' Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Supporting multiple language articles - URL formation
I need to support multiple languages on my wiki. I am trying at all costs to avoid multiple MW installations such as at wikipedia using sub domains. Mainly because I allow everyone to see everything. This way an Italian speaker sees both Italian and English articles BUT they can specify only Italian articles in their search.
I have sorted out the ability to automatically change the interface language per user from Drupal. I am now looking at URL formation, ensuring different and user generated URLs exist for the same articles in multiple languages.
For example, the English article about Milan, Italy would be at /Milan%2C_Italy. The Italian version would be different in that it would be at /Milano%2C_Italia. This doesn't represent a problem as they are different.
However, the article about India will be the same in both languages, /India.
Has anyone tackled this issue? I am thinking that possibly a namespace might be helpful?
Something like:
Italiano:Milano%2Italia Milan%2Italy
Italiano:India India
Would this work? Would an Italian speaker who is looking at the /Italia page and then creates a sub page called /Milano have it automatically go into the Italiano namespace?
I am not even sure if I am making myself clear on this issue. If not let me know.
Thanks, Paul
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