One thing to consider,
I find that the 'printable view' is useful for things *other* than printing - i.e. screen captures. I find the omission of this function from the monobook skin to be regretable.
Of course admins and poweruser's can be informed to switch skins, but the casual user is unlikely to make the distinction. Of course the installation can be modified to use an alternate skin as the default - but monobook is *much more* attractive IMHO.
Best Regards,
JT
=== You said: ===
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:06:02 +0100 From: Rowan Collins rowan.collins@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Printable Version? To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: 9f02ca4c040914120612a6cc7a@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Paul Johnson baloo@ursine.dyndns.org wrote:
OK, for my next dumb question ~ Does anyone know what and how to hack my wiki to show a "printable
version"
option on my pages in monobook?
I thought that was called the "classic" skin. Am I wrong?
The Classic skin, I believe, had/has a link to a special "Print Version" of each article. The MonoBook skin, by using CSS, simply tells the browser to print the page differently than it displays it. This is of course rather more "magic" than most users expect...
can someone hack the monobook skin to make the print button available? or can someone give me basic instruction so i could try it?
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:17:23 -0700, jt.thomas@verizonwireless.com jt.thomas@verizonwireless.com wrote:
One thing to consider,
I find that the 'printable view' is useful for things *other* than printing
- i.e. screen captures. I find the omission of this function from the
monobook skin to be regretable.
Of course admins and poweruser's can be informed to switch skins, but the casual user is unlikely to make the distinction. Of course the installation can be modified to use an alternate skin as the default - but monobook is *much more* attractive IMHO.
Best Regards,
JT
=== You said: ===
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:06:02 +0100 From: Rowan Collins rowan.collins@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Printable Version? To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: 9f02ca4c040914120612a6cc7a@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Paul Johnson baloo@ursine.dyndns.org wrote:
OK, for my next dumb question ~ Does anyone know what and how to hack my wiki to show a "printable
version"
option on my pages in monobook?
I thought that was called the "classic" skin. Am I wrong?
The Classic skin, I believe, had/has a link to a special "Print Version" of each article. The MonoBook skin, by using CSS, simply tells the browser to print the page differently than it displays it. This is of course rather more "magic" than most users expect...
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Breck Yunits breck7@gmail.com writes:
can someone hack the monobook skin to make the print button available? or can someone give me basic instruction so i could try it?
A few posts back, there was an explanation that this is not needed as the style sheet has a definition for printing. I would assume this was done entirely to avoid having to put a rather amateurish "click this for a printable version of our broken design" link...
Firefox, IE, and Opera all seem to have Print Preview capabilities, is that inadequate for your needs?
I'd personally prefer to not clutter up Monobook with things like a print icon or other text.
regards, -Nick
JT.Thomas@VerizonWireless.com wrote:
One thing to consider,
I find that the 'printable view' is useful for things *other* than printing
- i.e. screen captures. I find the omission of this function from the
monobook skin to be regretable.
Of course admins and poweruser's can be informed to switch skins, but the casual user is unlikely to make the distinction. Of course the installation can be modified to use an alternate skin as the default - but monobook is *much more* attractive IMHO.
Best Regards,
JT
=== You said: ===
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:06:02 +0100 From: Rowan Collins rowan.collins@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Printable Version? To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: 9f02ca4c040914120612a6cc7a@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Paul Johnson baloo@ursine.dyndns.org wrote:
OK, for my next dumb question ~ Does anyone know what and how to hack my wiki to show a "printable
version"
option on my pages in monobook?
I thought that was called the "classic" skin. Am I wrong?
The Classic skin, I believe, had/has a link to a special "Print Version" of each article. The MonoBook skin, by using CSS, simply tells the browser to print the page differently than it displays it. This is of course rather more "magic" than most users expect...
The only thing that browsers generally do is remove background colors, I think.
What they (we) are trying to figure out is if there is a server-side printing option. This would only show the content, not the header, footer, or side bar. (I assume other options would happen as well). Such on option is also useful for bots or specific/automated browser (ie, someone made an IE shell for Wikipedia).
On a semi-related topic, is there a way in MediaWiki for it to just return the stored wikitax? ie, index.php?page=Main_Page&mode=raw
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:34:10 -0700, Nick Triantos nick@triantos.com wrote:
Firefox, IE, and Opera all seem to have Print Preview capabilities, is that inadequate for your needs?
I'd personally prefer to not clutter up Monobook with things like a print icon or other text.
regards, -Nick
JT.Thomas@VerizonWireless.com wrote:
One thing to consider,
I find that the 'printable view' is useful for things *other* than printing
- i.e. screen captures. I find the omission of this function from the
monobook skin to be regretable.
Of course admins and poweruser's can be informed to switch skins, but the casual user is unlikely to make the distinction. Of course the installation can be modified to use an alternate skin as the default - but monobook is *much more* attractive IMHO.
Best Regards,
JT
=== You said: ===
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:06:02 +0100 From: Rowan Collins rowan.collins@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Printable Version? To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: 9f02ca4c040914120612a6cc7a@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Paul Johnson baloo@ursine.dyndns.org wrote:
OK, for my next dumb question ~ Does anyone know what and how to hack my wiki to show a "printable
version"
option on my pages in monobook?
I thought that was called the "classic" skin. Am I wrong?
The Classic skin, I believe, had/has a link to a special "Print Version" of each article. The MonoBook skin, by using CSS, simply tells the browser to print the page differently than it displays it. This is of course rather more "magic" than most users expect...
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On Sep 15, 2004, at 12:52 PM, Jamie Bliss wrote:
What they (we) are trying to figure out is if there is a server-side printing option. This would only show the content, not the header, footer, or side bar. (I assume other options would happen as well). Such on option is also useful for bots or specific/automated browser (ie, someone made an IE shell for Wikipedia).
There is no longer a distinct printable display. The "printable version" on the old skins just includes the print stylesheet for on-screen display.
On a semi-related topic, is there a way in MediaWiki for it to just return the stored wikitax? ie, index.php?page=Main_Page&mode=raw
index.php?title=Main_Page&action=raw
This naturally doesn't include metadata such as the last edit time, author, comment, etc. If you need that, use Special:Export.
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