Some of my wiki users seem to like to paste full wiki URLs into pages rather than use wiki link markup.
Is there an extension that can throw a validation error and prevent the saving of a page if the submitted text contains a certain pattern, like the hostname of the wiki?
Thanks.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Larry Silverman <lsilverman@trackabout.com
wrote:
Some of my wiki users seem to like to paste full wiki URLs into pages rather than use wiki link markup.
Is there an extension that can throw a validation error and prevent the saving of a page if the submitted text contains a certain pattern, like the hostname of the wiki?
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I don't think this is a best extension for this, despite it kind of, is able to do similar things.
Better would be to have some hook to parser itself and have it verify the syntax (which can be extended so even abuse filter doesn't know if it's valid or not, only parser does). Then a notification could be shown to user. In fact I don't know why we don't use something like that on our wikis as well
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Max Semenik maxsem.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Larry Silverman <lsilverman@trackabout.com
wrote:
Some of my wiki users seem to like to paste full wiki URLs into pages rather than use wiki link markup.
Is there an extension that can throw a validation error and prevent the saving of a page if the submitted text contains a certain pattern, like the hostname of the wiki?
Thanks. _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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On May 17, 2014 2:13 PM, "Petr Bena" benapetr@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think this is a best extension for this, despite it kind of, is able to do similar things.
Better would be to have some hook to parser itself and have it verify the syntax (which can be extended so even abuse filter doesn't know if it's valid or not, only parser does). Then a notification could be shown to user. In fact I don't know why we don't use something like that on our wikis as well
Improvements to the source editor like this would have a lot of impact in reducing the amount of community time spent fixing newbie edits and increasing learnability of the wiki syntax.
If this proposed extension used parsoid to validate the page, it could be be invoked from the source editor using JS, like the VE editor.
It would give mediawikis a reason to install and contribute fixes to parsoid even if they are not ready to install VE (or VE isnt ready to support their wiki for whatever reason).
-- John
On May 16, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
The more I think about it the better I like using this extension as a solution to Larry's question.
AbuseFilter is pretty flexible. There are already rules created and being used for missing Category(ies) from page edits. You can deny the save or warn and allow, plus tag the edit.
So all is needed is a filter to check all edits for a url with the wiki's domain name. A gentle reminder, you do not need to use this syntax with an example of what to use. Or the hard road, not allowed please use this.
Tom
On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:37:25 -0400, Tom tom@hutch4.us wrote:
On May 16, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
The more I think about it the better I like using this extension as a solution to Larry's question.
AbuseFilter is pretty flexible. There are already rules created and
being
used for missing Category(ies) from page edits. You can deny the save or warn and allow, plus tag the edit.
So all is needed is a filter to check all edits for a url with the
wiki's
domain name. A gentle reminder, you do not need to use this syntax with
an
example of what to use. Or the hard road, not allowed please use this.
Tom _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
An advantage of such an approach is that you can provide very specific, direct and customised information and guidance. English Wikisource has an abuse filter that checks a namespace for specific template that is required to be present, and where it is not, then guidance is given on the format, and links to specific help pages.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/1 In fact this was created as a filter before we even thought about its use in abuse settings.
Sometimes it would nice to be able to cascade filters, or exclude on the basis of a previous filter, however, that is not yet possible.
Regards, Billinghurst
I was wondering if there was a way to make a filter for the following:
New pages must have one of a series of templates (any of the templates will do, as long as at least one is present) and a category of some sort.
This would only apply to users that are not autopatrolled, bots or administrators.
We'd like to have something on our wiki to deter new editors that don't follow the manual of style guidelines and so the filter would be to encourage them to do so, with the hope and intention of encouraging good editing.
I'm not very skilled in the use of AbuseFilter, so if someone could show me an example filter that would fit the above (if possible), it would be appreciated.
To: mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 12:53:52 +1000 From: billinghurst@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Validating wiki text before saving
On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:37:25 -0400, Tom tom@hutch4.us wrote:
On May 16, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
The more I think about it the better I like using this extension as a solution to Larry's question.
AbuseFilter is pretty flexible. There are already rules created and
being
used for missing Category(ies) from page edits. You can deny the save or warn and allow, plus tag the edit.
So all is needed is a filter to check all edits for a url with the
wiki's
domain name. A gentle reminder, you do not need to use this syntax with
an
example of what to use. Or the hard road, not allowed please use this.
Tom _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
An advantage of such an approach is that you can provide very specific, direct and customised information and guidance. English Wikisource has an abuse filter that checks a namespace for specific template that is required to be present, and where it is not, then guidance is given on the format, and links to specific help pages.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/1 In fact this was created as a filter before we even thought about its use in abuse settings.
Sometimes it would nice to be able to cascade filters, or exclude on the basis of a previous filter, however, that is not yet possible.
Regards, Billinghurst
MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
Would you test on this one:
(article_namespace == 0) /* Only for {{ns:0}} */ & !(user_groups rlike "(sysop|bot|autopatrolled)") /* Not admin, bot, or autopatrolled */ & (action == "edit") /* Must be an "edit" */ & (article_articleid == 0) /* of previously non-existent page */ & !(new_wikitext irlike "^#\s*redirect") /* Must NOT be a redirect */ & (!(new_wikitext irlike "[[\s*Category:.+?]]") /* Must be missing categories */ | !(new_wikitext irlike "{{\s*(Foo|Bar|Baz)")) /* OR none of the templates listed is found */
2014-05-19 5:19 GMT+00:00 Arcane 21 arcane@live.com:
I was wondering if there was a way to make a filter for the following:
New pages must have one of a series of templates (any of the templates will do, as long as at least one is present) and a category of some sort.
This would only apply to users that are not autopatrolled, bots or administrators.
We'd like to have something on our wiki to deter new editors that don't follow the manual of style guidelines and so the filter would be to encourage them to do so, with the hope and intention of encouraging good editing.
I'm not very skilled in the use of AbuseFilter, so if someone could show me an example filter that would fit the above (if possible), it would be appreciated.
Sure. I would look to maybe give all the required templates the one id="..." as that makes the match for those easiest, otherwise you want to use contains_any
contains_any is good for something like !contains_any (user_groups, "sysop", "autopatrolled", ...)
At Commons, I did a simple one for main namespace that requires <gallery... just ensure that you test them for a while first, and if you have enough people watching your RC, then tags are useful.
Best way that I learnt was just looking at different Special:AbuseFilter and seeing what the competent were doing, and mimicking their components.
Here is a simple example of one such
article_namespace == 0 & (new_wikitext regex "[[[Cc]ategory:\s?\d{1,4}\sworks]]") & action = "edit" & !contains_any (user_groups, "sysop")
You will want to do something for things being new pages.
Regards, Billinghurst
On Mon, 19 May 2014 00:19:59 -0500, Arcane 21 arcane@live.com wrote:
I was wondering if there was a way to make a filter for the following:
New pages must have one of a series of templates (any of the templates will do, as long as at least one is present) and a category of some
sort.
This would only apply to users that are not autopatrolled, bots or administrators.
We'd like to have something on our wiki to deter new editors that don't follow the manual of style guidelines and so the filter would be to encourage them to do so, with the hope and intention of encouraging good editing.
I'm not very skilled in the use of AbuseFilter, so if someone could show me an example filter that would fit the above (if possible), it would be appreciated.
To: mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 12:53:52 +1000 From: billinghurst@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Validating wiki text before saving
On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:37:25 -0400, Tom tom@hutch4.us wrote:
On May 16, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
The more I think about it the better I like using this extension as a solution to Larry's question.
AbuseFilter is pretty flexible. There are already rules created and
being
used for missing Category(ies) from page edits. You can deny the save or warn and allow, plus tag the edit.
So all is needed is a filter to check all edits for a url with the
wiki's
domain name. A gentle reminder, you do not need to use this syntax
with
an
example of what to use. Or the hard road, not allowed please use
this.
Tom _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
An advantage of such an approach is that you can provide very specific, direct and customised information and guidance. English Wikisource has
an
abuse filter that checks a namespace for specific template that is required to be present, and where it is not, then guidance is given on the
format,
and links to specific help pages.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/1 In fact this was created as a filter before we even thought about its
use
in abuse settings.
Sometimes it would nice to be able to cascade filters, or exclude on
the
basis of a previous filter, however, that is not yet possible.
Regards, Billinghurst
MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
That's what I was looking for, thank you very much!
To: mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 19:30:45 +1000 From: billinghurst@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Validating wiki text before saving
Sure. I would look to maybe give all the required templates the one id="..." as that makes the match for those easiest, otherwise you want to use contains_any
contains_any is good for something like !contains_any (user_groups, "sysop", "autopatrolled", ...)
At Commons, I did a simple one for main namespace that requires <gallery... just ensure that you test them for a while first, and if you have enough people watching your RC, then tags are useful.
Best way that I learnt was just looking at different Special:AbuseFilter and seeing what the competent were doing, and mimicking their components.
Here is a simple example of one such
article_namespace == 0 & (new_wikitext regex "[[[Cc]ategory:\s?\d{1,4}\sworks]]") & action = "edit" & !contains_any (user_groups, "sysop")
You will want to do something for things being new pages.
Regards, Billinghurst
On Mon, 19 May 2014 00:19:59 -0500, Arcane 21 arcane@live.com wrote:
I was wondering if there was a way to make a filter for the following:
New pages must have one of a series of templates (any of the templates will do, as long as at least one is present) and a category of some
sort.
This would only apply to users that are not autopatrolled, bots or administrators.
We'd like to have something on our wiki to deter new editors that don't follow the manual of style guidelines and so the filter would be to encourage them to do so, with the hope and intention of encouraging good editing.
I'm not very skilled in the use of AbuseFilter, so if someone could show me an example filter that would fit the above (if possible), it would be appreciated.
To: mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 12:53:52 +1000 From: billinghurst@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Validating wiki text before saving
On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:37:25 -0400, Tom tom@hutch4.us wrote:
On May 16, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
The more I think about it the better I like using this extension as a solution to Larry's question.
AbuseFilter is pretty flexible. There are already rules created and
being
used for missing Category(ies) from page edits. You can deny the save or warn and allow, plus tag the edit.
So all is needed is a filter to check all edits for a url with the
wiki's
domain name. A gentle reminder, you do not need to use this syntax
with
an
example of what to use. Or the hard road, not allowed please use
this.
Tom _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
An advantage of such an approach is that you can provide very specific, direct and customised information and guidance. English Wikisource has
an
abuse filter that checks a namespace for specific template that is required to be present, and where it is not, then guidance is given on the
format,
and links to specific help pages.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/1 In fact this was created as a filter before we even thought about its
use
in abuse settings.
Sometimes it would nice to be able to cascade filters, or exclude on
the
basis of a previous filter, however, that is not yet possible.
Regards, Billinghurst
MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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Per my understanding the following needs to be done:
1.New pages must have certain templates. 2 This is to force users to follow a certain style guidelines. 3. Admin must have freedom to get around these restrictions if need be.
Based on that, I think, the best solution would be to use Semantic Forms. A far easier solution then the AbuseFilter.
Sent from my iPad
On May 18, 2014, at 10:19 PM, Arcane 21 arcane@live.com wrote:
I was wondering if there was a way to make a filter for the following:
New pages must have one of a series of templates (any of the templates will do, as long as at least one is present) and a category of some sort.
This would only apply to users that are not autopatrolled, bots or administrators.
We'd like to have something on our wiki to deter new editors that don't follow the manual of style guidelines and so the filter would be to encourage them to do so, with the hope and intention of encouraging good editing.
I'm not very skilled in the use of AbuseFilter, so if someone could show me an example filter that would fit the above (if possible), it would be appreciated.
To: mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 12:53:52 +1000 From: billinghurst@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Validating wiki text before saving
On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:37:25 -0400, Tom tom@hutch4.us wrote:
On May 16, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
The more I think about it the better I like using this extension as a solution to Larry's question.
AbuseFilter is pretty flexible. There are already rules created and
being
used for missing Category(ies) from page edits. You can deny the save or warn and allow, plus tag the edit.
So all is needed is a filter to check all edits for a url with the
wiki's
domain name. A gentle reminder, you do not need to use this syntax with
an
example of what to use. Or the hard road, not allowed please use this.
Tom _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
An advantage of such an approach is that you can provide very specific, direct and customised information and guidance. English Wikisource has an abuse filter that checks a namespace for specific template that is required to be present, and where it is not, then guidance is given on the format, and links to specific help pages.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/1 In fact this was created as a filter before we even thought about its use in abuse settings.
Sometimes it would nice to be able to cascade filters, or exclude on the basis of a previous filter, however, that is not yet possible.
Regards, Billinghurst
MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
I know even less about Semantic Forms than I do AbuseFilter, but given that you may be right, I'll have to look into that as well before we commit to anything.
Thanks for the alternative suggestion. :)
From: tharpenator@gmail.com Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 06:56:05 -0700 To: mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Validating wiki text before saving
Per my understanding the following needs to be done:
1.New pages must have certain templates. 2 This is to force users to follow a certain style guidelines. 3. Admin must have freedom to get around these restrictions if need be.
Based on that, I think, the best solution would be to use Semantic Forms. A far easier solution then the AbuseFilter.
Sent from my iPad
On May 18, 2014, at 10:19 PM, Arcane 21 arcane@live.com wrote:
I was wondering if there was a way to make a filter for the following:
New pages must have one of a series of templates (any of the templates will do, as long as at least one is present) and a category of some sort.
This would only apply to users that are not autopatrolled, bots or administrators.
We'd like to have something on our wiki to deter new editors that don't follow the manual of style guidelines and so the filter would be to encourage them to do so, with the hope and intention of encouraging good editing.
I'm not very skilled in the use of AbuseFilter, so if someone could show me an example filter that would fit the above (if possible), it would be appreciated.
To: mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 12:53:52 +1000 From: billinghurst@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Validating wiki text before saving
On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:37:25 -0400, Tom tom@hutch4.us wrote:
On May 16, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
The more I think about it the better I like using this extension as a solution to Larry's question.
AbuseFilter is pretty flexible. There are already rules created and
being
used for missing Category(ies) from page edits. You can deny the save or warn and allow, plus tag the edit.
So all is needed is a filter to check all edits for a url with the
wiki's
domain name. A gentle reminder, you do not need to use this syntax with
an
example of what to use. Or the hard road, not allowed please use this.
Tom _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
An advantage of such an approach is that you can provide very specific, direct and customised information and guidance. English Wikisource has an abuse filter that checks a namespace for specific template that is required to be present, and where it is not, then guidance is given on the format, and links to specific help pages.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/1 In fact this was created as a filter before we even thought about its use in abuse settings.
Sometimes it would nice to be able to cascade filters, or exclude on the basis of a previous filter, however, that is not yet possible.
Regards, Billinghurst
MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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AbuseFilter looks like exactly what I need. Until there's something better, AbuseFilter it is!
Thanks for the suggestion. I've already installed it and created my first filter.
Larry Silverman Chief Technology Officer TrackAbout, Inc.
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Arcane 21 arcane@live.com wrote:
I know even less about Semantic Forms than I do AbuseFilter, but given that you may be right, I'll have to look into that as well before we commit to anything.
Thanks for the alternative suggestion. :)
From: tharpenator@gmail.com Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 06:56:05 -0700 To: mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Validating wiki text before saving
Per my understanding the following needs to be done:
1.New pages must have certain templates. 2 This is to force users to follow a certain style guidelines. 3. Admin must have freedom to get around these restrictions if need be.
Based on that, I think, the best solution would be to use Semantic
Forms. A far easier solution then the AbuseFilter.
Sent from my iPad
On May 18, 2014, at 10:19 PM, Arcane 21 arcane@live.com wrote:
I was wondering if there was a way to make a filter for the following:
New pages must have one of a series of templates (any of the templates
will do, as long as at least one is present) and a category of some sort.
This would only apply to users that are not autopatrolled, bots or
administrators.
We'd like to have something on our wiki to deter new editors that
don't follow the manual of style guidelines and so the filter would be to encourage them to do so, with the hope and intention of encouraging good editing.
I'm not very skilled in the use of AbuseFilter, so if someone could
show me an example filter that would fit the above (if possible), it would be appreciated.
To: mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 12:53:52 +1000 From: billinghurst@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Validating wiki text before saving
On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:37:25 -0400, Tom tom@hutch4.us wrote:
On May 16, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
The more I think about it the better I like using this extension as a solution to Larry's question.
AbuseFilter is pretty flexible. There are already rules created and
being
used for missing Category(ies) from page edits. You can deny the
save or
warn and allow, plus tag the edit.
So all is needed is a filter to check all edits for a url with the
wiki's
domain name. A gentle reminder, you do not need to use this syntax
with
an
example of what to use. Or the hard road, not allowed please use
this.
Tom _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
An advantage of such an approach is that you can provide very
specific,
direct and customised information and guidance. English Wikisource
has an
abuse filter that checks a namespace for specific template that is
required
to be present, and where it is not, then guidance is given on the
format,
and links to specific help pages.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/1 In fact this was created as a filter before we even thought about its
use
in abuse settings.
Sometimes it would nice to be able to cascade filters, or exclude on
the
basis of a previous filter, however, that is not yet possible.
Regards, Billinghurst
MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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Am drilling down through the wiki documentation to figure out how to add dynamically relevant link lists to the navigation sidebar. Have identified the divs and the mark-up (thanks Chrome element inspector) but for the life of me, can't find the php script, css or html mark-up that holds the content.
Can someone throw me a cluebrick and tell me where to look?
Thanks in advance,
Shirley Hicks Birmingham, AL shirley@velochicdesign.com
Did you look at this? http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual%3AHooks%2FSkinBuildSidebar or you could look at the code for ideas for this extension http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension%3ADynamicSidebar Tom
---Sent from my iPhone
Am drilling down through the wiki documentation to figure out how to add dynamically relevant link lists to the navigation sidebar. Have identified the divs and the mark-up (thanks Chrome element inspector) but for the life of me, can't find the php script, css or html mark-up that holds the content.
Can someone throw me a cluebrick and tell me where to look?
Thanks in advance,
Shirley Hicks Birmingham, AL shirley@velochicdesign.com
_______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
Try going to: Mediaiwki:Sidebar
Sent from my iPad
On May 21, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Shirley Hicks shirley@velochicdesign.com wrote:
Am drilling down through the wiki documentation to figure out how to add dynamically relevant link lists to the navigation sidebar. Have identified the divs and the mark-up (thanks Chrome element inspector) but for the life of me, can't find the php script, css or html mark-up that holds the content.
Can someone throw me a cluebrick and tell me where to look?
Thanks in advance,
Shirley Hicks Birmingham, AL shirley@velochicdesign.com
MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
Sorry misspelled: Mediawiki:Sidebar
Sent from my iPad
On May 21, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Chris Tharp tharpenator@gmail.com wrote:
Try going to: Mediaiwki:Sidebar
Sent from my iPad
On May 21, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Shirley Hicks shirley@velochicdesign.com wrote:
Am drilling down through the wiki documentation to figure out how to add dynamically relevant link lists to the navigation sidebar. Have identified the divs and the mark-up (thanks Chrome element inspector) but for the life of me, can't find the php script, css or html mark-up that holds the content.
Can someone throw me a cluebrick and tell me where to look?
Thanks in advance,
Shirley Hicks Birmingham, AL shirley@velochicdesign.com
MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
Yeah - have found that and dug in. Haven't quite got the divisions working in the responsive manner that I'd like to use through brute force.
-- Shirley
On May 21, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Chris Tharp tharpenator@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry misspelled: Mediawiki:Sidebar
Sent from my iPad
On May 21, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Chris Tharp tharpenator@gmail.com wrote:
Try going to: Mediaiwki:Sidebar
Sent from my iPad
On May 21, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Shirley Hicks shirley@velochicdesign.com wrote:
Am drilling down through the wiki documentation to figure out how to add dynamically relevant link lists to the navigation sidebar. Have identified the divs and the mark-up (thanks Chrome element inspector) but for the life of me, can't find the php script, css or html mark-up that holds the content.
Can someone throw me a cluebrick and tell me where to look?
Thanks in advance,
Shirley Hicks Birmingham, AL shirley@velochicdesign.com
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Hi Shirley Perhaps you could better explain what exactly you are trying to accomplish? You stated dynamically, which to me (and probably others) mean 'on the fly' or based on content of the page, user group, date, etc... Chris pointed you at Mediawiki:Sidebar which is how you would build the static sidebar (same on every page / even SpecialPages). Now you are using the word responsive, which to me would reference mobile/media screen adjustments to layout. Flow or layout? Sorry, just trying to understand what exactly you are looking to find. Tom
Yeah - have found that and dug in. Haven't quite got the divisions working in the responsive manner that I'd like to use through brute force.
-- Shirley
On May 21, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Chris Tharp tharpenator@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry misspelled: Mediawiki:Sidebar
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On May 21, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Chris Tharp tharpenator@gmail.com wrote:
Try going to: Mediaiwki:Sidebar
Sent from my iPad
On May 21, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Shirley Hicks shirley@velochicdesign.com wrote:
Am drilling down through the wiki documentation to figure out how to add dynamically relevant link lists to the navigation sidebar. Have identified the divs and the mark-up (thanks Chrome element inspector) but for the life of me, can't find the php script, css or html mark-up that holds the content.
Can someone throw me a cluebrick and tell me where to look?
Thanks in advance,
Shirley Hicks Birmingham, AL shirley@velochicdesign.com
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Sorry for the confusion, and thanks in advance for any advice and assistance.
I was attempting to customize our wiki's sidebar menu for the first time. I've now successfully done this (wiki.redmountainmakers.org (1.19.11), beta (1.22.6) with further tests and finetuning of extensions at wiki.backup.redmountainmakers.org via the MediaWiki:Sidebar page (took a little while to figure this out).
Would now like (if possible) to add dynamic content based on user group.
-- Shirley HIcks
On May 22, 2014, at 1:05 AM, Tom Hutchison tom@hutch4.us wrote:
Hi Shirley Perhaps you could better explain what exactly you are trying to accomplish? You stated dynamically, which to me (and probably others) mean 'on the fly' or based on content of the page, user group, date, etc... Chris pointed you at Mediawiki:Sidebar which is how you would build the static sidebar (same on every page / even SpecialPages). Now you are using the word responsive, which to me would reference mobile/media screen adjustments to layout. Flow or layout? Sorry, just trying to understand what exactly you are looking to find. Tom
Yeah - have found that and dug in. Haven't quite got the divisions working in the responsive manner that I'd like to use through brute force.
-- Shirley
On May 21, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Chris Tharp tharpenator@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry misspelled: Mediawiki:Sidebar
Sent from my iPad
On May 21, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Chris Tharp tharpenator@gmail.com wrote:
Try going to: Mediaiwki:Sidebar
Sent from my iPad
On May 21, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Shirley Hicks shirley@velochicdesign.com wrote:
Am drilling down through the wiki documentation to figure out how to add dynamically relevant link lists to the navigation sidebar. Have identified the divs and the mark-up (thanks Chrome element inspector) but for the life of me, can't find the php script, css or html mark-up that holds the content.
Can someone throw me a cluebrick and tell me where to look?
Thanks in advance,
Shirley Hicks Birmingham, AL shirley@velochicdesign.com
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Try:http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicSidebar.
I know nothing about this extension, or if it's still valid, but your email reminded me of its existence. (Too many hours wondering in the ends and outs of Mediawiki extensions)
Chris
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Shirley Hicks shirley@velochicdesign.comwrote:
Sorry for the confusion, and thanks in advance for any advice and assistance.
I was attempting to customize our wiki's sidebar menu for the first time. I've now successfully done this (wiki.redmountainmakers.org (1.19.11), beta (1.22.6) with further tests and finetuning of extensions at wiki.backup.redmountainmakers.org via the MediaWiki:Sidebar page (took a little while to figure this out).
Would now like (if possible) to add dynamic content based on user group.
-- Shirley HIcks
On May 22, 2014, at 1:05 AM, Tom Hutchison tom@hutch4.us wrote:
Hi Shirley Perhaps you could better explain what exactly you are trying
to accomplish? You stated dynamically, which to me (and probably others) mean 'on the fly' or based on content of the page, user group, date, etc... Chris pointed you at Mediawiki:Sidebar which is how you would build the static sidebar (same on every page / even SpecialPages). Now you are using the word responsive, which to me would reference mobile/media screen adjustments to layout. Flow or layout? Sorry, just trying to understand what exactly you are looking to find. Tom
Yeah - have found that and dug in. Haven't quite got the divisions
working in the responsive manner that I'd like to use through brute force.
-- Shirley
On May 21, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Chris Tharp tharpenator@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry misspelled: Mediawiki:Sidebar
Sent from my iPad
On May 21, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Chris Tharp tharpenator@gmail.com wrote:
Try going to: Mediaiwki:Sidebar
Sent from my iPad
On May 21, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Shirley Hicks <
shirley@velochicdesign.com> wrote:
Am drilling down through the wiki documentation to figure out how to
add dynamically relevant link lists to the navigation sidebar.
Have identified the divs and the mark-up (thanks Chrome element
inspector) but for the life of me, can't find the php script, css or html
mark-up that holds the content.
Can someone throw me a cluebrick and tell me where to look?
Thanks in advance,
Shirley Hicks Birmingham, AL shirley@velochicdesign.com
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