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Today's Topics:
1. Re: "Go" vs "Search" (roger(a)rogerchrisman.com)
2. Re: "Go" vs "Search" (roger(a)rogerchrisman.com)
3. content in site root (Jeremy Baron)
4. Re: "Go" vs "Search" (Nik Everett)
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 21:25:53 -0700
From: roger(a)rogerchrisman.com
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Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] "Go" vs "Search"
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Wait!
At the bottom of the 'Simple search' search box's drop down suggestion
list is a final item in a shaded box that reads 'Containing: <search
sting here>'. Selecting that takes you to a search results page. Aha!
Why am I only now learning this? Maybe I'm a model average user? Not
likely. But it is learning by playing. So maybe others can do it, too?
What do you think?
Roger
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:18 PM, <roger(a)rogerchrisman.com> wrote:
I've just realized that, using 'Simple
search', all one has to do to
get past the article title suggestions is lengthen ones search string
till it no longer exactly matches any article titles. Then, and only
then, does 'Simple search' take you to a search results page. Might
this simply be something folks need to learn to do, by doing? And
might it simply work? Are average users consistently so cleaver?
Argggg. I think if we lead them in the right direction it will work
fine. What do you think?
Roger
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:27 PM, <roger(a)rogerchrisman.com> wrote:
>> Now that I think about it, does the prefix search still work with that hack?
>> By work I mean you should be able to select one of the entries that pops
>> down under the search box as you type and it takes you to that article.
>
> No, with the hack in place clicking on one of the drop down search
> suggestions takes you to the search results page for that value, not
> to an article page. That _is_ perhaps what I want. I want Search to
> take you to a search results page, so that a user may choose which
> page he wants.
>
> Is the drop down list of search suggestions generated from a list of
> the wiki's page titles? Hm, I guess it is. I had not realized that. So
> how does one search the wiki's page texts? This whole search feature
> seems to be designed to take a user to a destination article directly
> whenever possible. I'm not sure that is best for my wiki because that
> page may not always be the one a user wants and without the search
> results page, how will he find the one he does want? By doing another
> search with more search terms? Hm, maybe we can all get used to this
> and maybe it will just work.
>
> Argggg, and trying to change this designed in behavior may not be so
> easy for a chiefly point and click guy like me.
>
> So I may decide to use the two button ('Go' + 'Search') Search box
> that I get when I set $wgVectorUseSimpleSearch to false, instead,
> especially if this hack is not going to work in future.
>
> Thanks for the tips.
>
> Roger
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 21:27:46 -0700
From: roger(a)rogerchrisman.com
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Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] "Go" vs "Search"
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have you tried clicking the entry below the
suggestions? (where it says
"containing…") see attachment
-Jeremy
Yes Jeremy. Thanks, just discovered that a moment ago. I guess others
can "discover" it, too. Hope so.
Roger
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 04:36:47 +0000
From: Jeremy Baron <jeremy(a)tuxmachine.com>
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Subject: [MediaWiki-l] content in site root
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On Sep 7, 2013 12:27 AM, <roger(a)rogerchrisman.com> wrote:
Yes Jeremy. Thanks, just discovered that a moment
ago. I guess others
can "discover" it, too. Hope so.
btw, just noticed that your content lives in the site root. have a look at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory when you
get a chance.
(moved offlist because I didn't notice it until now and didn't want to add
more noise to the thread)
-Jeremy
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 07:10:06 -0400
From: Nik Everett <neverett(a)wikimedia.org>
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On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:27 AM, roger(a)rogerchrisman.com wrote:
>> have you tried clicking the entry below the suggestions? (where it says
>> "containing…") see attachment
>>
>> -Jeremy
>
Yes Jeremy. Thanks, just discovered that a moment
ago. I guess others
can "discover" it, too. Hope so.
>
> Roger
>
You can prefix a search with ~ and that'll force a search but that isn't intuitive
either.
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