From: "Myria" myria@wolfandturtle.net
Steven Hilton wrote:
On 7/19/05, Jan Steinman Jan@bytesmiths.com wrote:
With all due respect to the work you have done, I believe spell checking is the domain of the client.
On Safari (MacOS X) at least, client-side interactive spell checking works great with MediaWiki. Does it not in other browers/OSs?
The problem, of course, is that exceedingly few Wiki users... are going to be apt to have either product (despite the fact that I list them on my help page).
Mea culpa. <gloat>I just assumed all modern operating systems came off-the-shelf with built-in, system-wide interactive spelling correction that works equally well in all applications. (Except for a few bad Windows ports that ignore system input methods.)</gloat>
(Every time I even think about trying Windows or Linux, something like this reminds me why I use a Mac.)
I'm really at a loss as to why -- aside from the seemingly inevitable naysaying so common to this list -- a server-side spell checker is such a bad idea.
Sorry, I did not mean ot be a nay-sayer. It was simply superfluous to me. I now know why others need such a thing.
:::: How many people did YOU starve today? :::: Driving 4 miles in a 20 mpg vehicle is the energy-equivalent of over 2 loaves of bread. -- David Pimentel, Cornell University :::: Jan Steinman http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van
While I agree that spell checking might not suite everyone. There still is a need for it. Which is what this extension meets.
As for performance, I designed the extension so that it would be very easy to designate a "spell check server" or a "spell check cluster" so load problems would only be noticed by those who choose to use the service anyone else won't see any effects at all.
-- Chris McIntosh
On 7/20/05, Jan Steinman Jan@bytesmiths.com wrote:
From: "Myria" myria@wolfandturtle.net
Steven Hilton wrote:
On 7/19/05, Jan Steinman Jan@bytesmiths.com wrote:
With all due respect to the work you have done, I believe spell checking is the domain of the client.
On Safari (MacOS X) at least, client-side interactive spell checking works great with MediaWiki. Does it not in other browers/OSs?
The problem, of course, is that exceedingly few Wiki users... are going to be apt to have either product (despite the fact that I list them on my help page).
Mea culpa. <gloat>I just assumed all modern operating systems came off-the-shelf with built-in, system-wide interactive spelling correction that works equally well in all applications. (Except for a few bad Windows ports that ignore system input methods.)</gloat>
(Every time I even think about trying Windows or Linux, something like this reminds me why I use a Mac.)
I'm really at a loss as to why -- aside from the seemingly inevitable naysaying so common to this list -- a server-side spell checker is such a bad idea.
Sorry, I did not mean ot be a nay-sayer. It was simply superfluous to me. I now know why others need such a thing.
:::: How many people did YOU starve today? :::: Driving 4 miles in a 20 mpg vehicle is the energy-equivalent of over 2 loaves of bread. -- David Pimentel, Cornell University :::: Jan Steinman http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van
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There is an additional problem with client-side spell chekers. If you use spellbound on an article that has html or css in it, it will attempt to check all of the attributes which becomes very annoying. A server-side variant could be intelligent enough to skip over wikimarkup, html, css etc...
On 7/20/05, Chris McIntosh cmcintosh@gmail.com wrote:
While I agree that spell checking might not suite everyone. There still is a need for it. Which is what this extension meets.
As for performance, I designed the extension so that it would be very easy to designate a "spell check server" or a "spell check cluster" so load problems would only be noticed by those who choose to use the service anyone else won't see any effects at all.
-- Chris McIntosh
On 7/20/05, Jan Steinman Jan@bytesmiths.com wrote:
From: "Myria" myria@wolfandturtle.net
Steven Hilton wrote:
On 7/19/05, Jan Steinman Jan@bytesmiths.com wrote:
With all due respect to the work you have done, I believe spell checking is the domain of the client.
On Safari (MacOS X) at least, client-side interactive spell checking works great with MediaWiki. Does it not in other browers/OSs?
The problem, of course, is that exceedingly few Wiki users... are going to be apt to have either product (despite the fact that I list them on my help page).
Mea culpa. <gloat>I just assumed all modern operating systems came off-the-shelf with built-in, system-wide interactive spelling correction that works equally well in all applications. (Except for a few bad Windows ports that ignore system input methods.)</gloat>
(Every time I even think about trying Windows or Linux, something like this reminds me why I use a Mac.)
I'm really at a loss as to why -- aside from the seemingly inevitable naysaying so common to this list -- a server-side spell checker is such a bad idea.
Sorry, I did not mean ot be a nay-sayer. It was simply superfluous to me. I now know why others need such a thing.
:::: How many people did YOU starve today? :::: Driving 4 miles in a 20 mpg vehicle is the energy-equivalent of over 2 loaves of bread. -- David Pimentel, Cornell University :::: Jan Steinman http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van
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Jan Steinman wrote:
Mea culpa. <gloat>I just assumed all modern operating systems came off-the-shelf with built-in, system-wide interactive spelling correction that works equally well in all applications. (Except for a few bad Windows ports that ignore system input methods.)</gloat>
(Every time I even think about trying Windows or Linux, something like this reminds me why I use a Mac.)
Why do you bother with Wikipedia or Mediawiki? Just use some ready, off-the-shelf encyclopedia or content management system.
Linux and its various browsers and spell checkers are being built and improved right now, by people just like those who build and improve Mediawiki and Wikipedia. You don't have to be part of this. It's completely voluntary.
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