Arthur wrote: I have been following this discussion for the past few days and it seems to be going round in circles and getting no ware ...
Peter Blaise responds: I love puns! ;-)
Arthur wrote: ... http://httpd.apache.org/, http://www.php.net/, http://www.mysql.com/, Finally MediaWiki ... contact the relevant forums or mailing lists relating to the piece of software that is causing you problems ...
Peter Blaise responds: Thanks, but I'm ONLY trying to install MediaWiki (and whatever it takes to support it), so everyone says, "ask somewhere else"! Go to Apache and say, "my goal is to support MediaWiki" and they say, "ask MediaWiki!" Go to PHP and say, "my goal is to support MediaWiki, and they say, "ask MediaWiki!" And so on. What you're saying is like asking for car performance tuning help and being told, "did you ask the highway department about their road and how it's supposed to handle?" Argh!
Arthur wrote: ... Alternatively you can try a WAMP package ...
Peter Blaise responds: Thanks, but do you now of any that *include* MediaWiki ... since I'm trying to support MediaWiki?
As mentioned:
Cornelius Herzog's Wiki-on-WOS (WOS = Web server On a usb Stick) works just fine on Windows without admin rights, and can run from a USB flash drive or from an MS-DOS "subst" drive:
http://www.chsoftware.net/en/useware/wos/wos.htm?action=download
It does not require admin rights nor does it hammer the Windows registry or Windows program and system file areas. Wiki on WOS is a truly portable uber MediaWiki!
However, it defaults to a single-user wiki! It requires a manually created list of IP addresses so it can be shared with more than one user, so it has a narrow audience with ongoing support requirements to expand it.
In a mere 6 hours, using Wiki on WOS and Word2Wiki (see: Gunter Schmidt's and Fernando Correia 's Word2Wiki extension: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Word2MediaWikiPlus ), I built a working MediaWiki on it with ~500,000 words containing the entire US Trademark Manual of Examining Procedure* AND the all supporting law (see http://tess2.uspto.gov/tmdb/tmep/ )
Thanks for the confirmation of a synopsis and confirmation that you also have not found a concise, complete and accurate itemized checklist of all decisions supporting "WAMPP/MW" - Windows, Apache, MySQL, PHP, PHPMyAdmin, MediaWiki.
-- Peter Blaise
PS - 6 MediaWiki references at apache.org, 25 at php.net ... they don't really support each other. I was hoping MediaWiki.org would be the penultimate place to find focused, purposeful support all the appropriate choices for all the underpinnings of MediaWiki, but ...
But what? Say it. ... helps nobody.
(regulars here: yes I'm probably guilty too... oops!)
Fact of the matter is:
You MUST have a functioning Apache install.
You MUST have a functioning PHP install.
You MUST have a functioning mySQL install.
It's not important what those are for. They could be for WordPress. Or Drupal. Or MediaWiki. Or Short URL script. Or Gallery2. Point is, you have to have the prerequisites installed and working.
I most highly strongly unequivocally without reservation recommend you use WAMP to install the three packages.
If you can't because you don't have proper administrative access to the OS, then you are out of luck. Like trying to get backstage to see John Prine if you don't have an after show pass. T'ain't gonna happen, and no amount of beseeching other fans on the JP list is gonna make it so.
Seriously. WAMP. The link's been given.
Peace. Out.
On 5/25/07 1:19 PM, "Monahon, Peter B." Peter.Monahon@USPTO.GOV either wrote, forwarded or quoted:
Peter Blaise responds: Thanks, but I'm ONLY trying to install MediaWiki (and whatever it takes to support it), so everyone says, "ask somewhere else"! Go to Apache and say, "my goal is to support MediaWiki" and they say, "ask MediaWiki!" Go to PHP and say, "my goal is to support MediaWiki, and they say, "ask MediaWiki!" And so on. What you're saying is like asking for car performance tuning help and being told, "did you ask the highway department about their road and how it's supposed to handle?" Argh!
So you have Apache, PHP, MySQL and MediaWiki working; what are you having problems with?
Arthur Guy
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-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Monahon, Peter B. Sent: 25 May 2007 19:20 To: mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Is MediaWiki-l dysfunctional? What is it good for, really? and Re: Any leads on a basic wiki setup-and-configure instruction manual?
In a mere 6 hours, using Wiki on WOS and Word2Wiki (see: Gunter Schmidt's and Fernando Correia 's Word2Wiki extension: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Word2MediaWikiPlus ), I built a working MediaWiki on it with ~500,000 words containing the entire US Trademark Manual of Examining Procedure* AND the all supporting law (see http://tess2.uspto.gov/tmdb/tmep/ )
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Good Afternoon MediaWiki Fans:
Before I pull all of my hair out here, can anyone tell me what I am missing in this procedure. Am I following out of date documents here or what ?
I'm trying to write a robot to automatically add pages to a MediaWiki. Something along the lines of: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Bulk_Page_Creator
I've been following the proper use of the save edit parameters at: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php
And sending the appropriate POST request to the wiki with a valid wpEditToken obtained from the wiki with an action=edit call first. I'm watching my POST operation go out OK from my end, but the only answer I get back from the wiki is "this page does not exist, would you like to edit it"
Is it clear to the wiki when it sees an incoming POST request with the URL action=submit: index.php?title=myNewPage&action=submit That this is the result of the submit button "Save page" from the editform on the edit page ? Is it just the actual POST variables in the message that direct the save activity at the wiki ?
Anyone have any good pointers to recent documents about robot writing ?
My hair will appreciate your assistance,
--Hiram
I use the MediaWiki Perl module and it works great - http://search.cpan.org/~spectrum/MediaWiki-1.11/lib/MediaWiki.pm
-Carlos
Hiram Clawson wrote:
Good Afternoon MediaWiki Fans:
Before I pull all of my hair out here, can anyone tell me what I am missing in this procedure. Am I following out of date documents here or what ?
I'm trying to write a robot to automatically add pages to a MediaWiki. Something along the lines of: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Bulk_Page_Creator
I've been following the proper use of the save edit parameters at: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php
And sending the appropriate POST request to the wiki with a valid wpEditToken obtained from the wiki with an action=edit call first. I'm watching my POST operation go out OK from my end, but the only answer I get back from the wiki is "this page does not exist, would you like to edit it"
Is it clear to the wiki when it sees an incoming POST request with the URL action=submit: index.php?title=myNewPage&action=submit That this is the result of the submit button "Save page" from the editform on the edit page ? Is it just the actual POST variables in the message that direct the save activity at the wiki ?
Anyone have any good pointers to recent documents about robot writing ?
My hair will appreciate your assistance,
--Hiram
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OK, I finally figured this out. Somehow I was getting the ampersand separator character in the URL being converted to the special character equivalent & and the URL looked like: index.php?title=myNewPage&action=submit instead of properly: index.php?title=myNewPage&action=submit
Once I got rid of that encoding, the action is now functioning.
Sorry for the false alarm. Everything seems to be working as documented.
--Hiram
Carlos Ramirez wrote:
I use the MediaWiki Perl module and it works great - http://search.cpan.org/~spectrum/MediaWiki-1.11/lib/MediaWiki.pm
-Carlos
Hiram Clawson wrote:
Good Afternoon MediaWiki Fans:
Before I pull all of my hair out here, can anyone tell me what I am missing in this procedure. Am I following out of date documents here or what ?
I'm trying to write a robot to automatically add pages to a MediaWiki. Something along the lines of: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Bulk_Page_Creator
I've been following the proper use of the save edit parameters at: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php
And sending the appropriate POST request to the wiki with a valid wpEditToken obtained from the wiki with an action=edit call first. I'm watching my POST operation go out OK from my end, but the only answer I get back from the wiki is "this page does not exist, would you like to edit it"
Is it clear to the wiki when it sees an incoming POST request with the URL action=submit: index.php?title=myNewPage&action=submit That this is the result of the submit button "Save page" from the editform on the edit page ? Is it just the actual POST variables in the message that direct the save activity at the wiki ?
Anyone have any good pointers to recent documents about robot writing ?
My hair will appreciate your assistance,
--Hiram
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Hiram Clawson wrote:
Good Afternoon MediaWiki Fans:
Before I pull all of my hair out here, can anyone tell me what I am missing in this procedure. Am I following out of date documents here or what ?
I'm trying to write a robot to automatically add pages to a MediaWiki. Something along the lines of: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Bulk_Page_Creator
I've been following the proper use of the save edit parameters at: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php
And sending the appropriate POST request to the wiki with a valid wpEditToken obtained from the wiki with an action=edit call first. I'm watching my POST operation go out OK from my end, but the only answer I get back from the wiki is "this page does not exist, would you like to edit it"
Is it clear to the wiki when it sees an incoming POST request with the URL action=submit: index.php?title=myNewPage&action=submit That this is the result of the submit button "Save page" from the editform on the edit page ? Is it just the actual POST variables in the message that direct the save activity at the wiki ?
Anyone have any good pointers to recent documents about robot writing ?
My hair will appreciate your assistance,
--Hiram
Try setting an wpSave parameter too (value doesn't matter). Mediawiki needs to know if it's a Save, a Preview... Plus, if you provide no content to the page (blank wpTextbox1) it won't get created, arriving to that page.
I recommend when you have this knid of problems, to sniff your broswser connection to copy its behaviour.
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