Debi wrote:
I'm new to the list and new to the concept of the wiki. I've been learning as I go and have to admit that most of this stuff is way over my head at the moment!
Anyway, this is the request of my team for our new wikipedia:
Just a quick note: "Wikipedia" is actually a trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, so it's best not to get into the habit of referring to something as "a Wikipedia" if it isn't part of wikipedia.org. The generic term is simply "a wiki" or "a WikiWiki".
We noticed that the Wikipedia.com site had something called a #siteNotice in their MediaWiki:Monobook.css, but I have no idea where this #siteNotice lives and whether or not links can be engrained in them.
My guess would be that that was the formatting for [[MediaWiki:fromwikipedia]] - but I've just noticed that that message doesn't appear *at all* under monobook - anyone have any idea why not? Just an oversight?
We have a special "categories" menu we'd like to add to every page and have it have links to the actual Catetory:xxx pages to enhance navigation.
We'd like to keep this list of categories up-to-date easily. Right now, we have Template:Showcategories, but that has to be put into each article.
Were you thinking of just a list of inline links (and not have many categories) or an actual drop-down menu (which would be better for a large list of categories)? The former you might be able to do with strange bits of JavaScript and CSS (although I dread to think how) or by modifying the monobook skin itself (and, of course, any other skin you let your users select once they log in). For the latter (and indeed the former, if you don't have any PHP wizards amongst you but want an auto-updating list) I guess you'll have to lodge a Feature Request at the software's Sourceforge Tracker (https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=411195&group_id=34373&func=bro...) and hope someone feels like coding it for you.
I'm afraid I'm not very familiar with the skinning and CSS and stuff, so can't be more helpful than that. Perhaps someone else can shed a bit more light on your options.
Debi wrote:
We noticed that the Wikipedia.com site had something called a #siteNotice in their MediaWiki:Monobook.css, but I have no idea where this #siteNotice lives and whether or not links can be engrained in them.
See this extract from DefaultSettings.php: # If set, a bold ugly notice will show up at the top of every page. $wgSiteNotice = "";
Set it in LocalSettings.php. This is intended primarily for emergency notices of upcoming or current database downtime.
Rowan Collins [IMSoP] wrote:
My guess would be that that was the formatting for [[MediaWiki:fromwikipedia]] - but I've just noticed that that message doesn't appear *at all* under monobook - anyone have any idea why not? Just an oversight?
The 'fromwikipedia' message appears in printed mode from monobook, but is hidden in Monobook's screen style sheet. You could override this by changing the style for #siteSub.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Quoting Rowan Collins [IMSoP], from the post of Sun, 20 Jun:
Just a quick note: "Wikipedia" is actually a trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, so it's best not to get into the habit of referring to something as "a Wikipedia" if it isn't part of wikipedia.org. The generic term is simply "a wiki" or "a WikiWiki".
Then I think it would be really help not to have "Wikipedia" strings hard-wired into some of the skins (like I found in cologneblue, at least in the Hebrew version I'm using), and maybe conider changing the fromwikipedia page and its ilk to a generic names like fromwikiname or frommediawikiname.
but most importantly, this deserves to be listed in the installation guide :-)
Cheers, Ira.
Ira Abramov wrote:
Quoting Rowan Collins [IMSoP], from the post of Sun, 20 Jun:
Just a quick note: "Wikipedia" is actually a trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, so it's best not to get into the habit of referring to something as "a Wikipedia" if it isn't part of wikipedia.org. The generic term is simply "a wiki" or "a WikiWiki".
Then I think it would be really help not to have "Wikipedia" strings hard-wired into some of the skins (like I found in cologneblue, at least in the Hebrew version I'm using), and maybe conider changing the fromwikipedia page and its ilk to a generic names like fromwikiname or frommediawikiname.
Hmm, good point - I'll add that point to Bug #922210 (https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=922210&gro...) which is about exactly those messages.
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