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Jeroen De Dauw

14 Oct 2011 14 Oct '11

4:37 p.m.

Hey, I'm curious to what the release plans for 1.18 are. 1.18wmf1 has been deployed on the wmf wikis, but still there is no beta release for 1.18. For when is such an initial beta planned, and what's the target data for the actual 1.18 release? Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. --

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Siebrand Mazeland

14 Oct 14 Oct

4:46 p.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki 1.18 release plans

Hi Jeroen,

Jeroen De Dauw wrote: I'm curious to what the release plans for 1.18 are. 1.18wmf1 has been deployed on the wmf wikis, but still there is no beta release for 1.18. For when is such an initial beta planned, and what's the target data for the actual 1.18 release?

Completion of the 1.18 deployment for Wikimedia sites was followed by multi day "all staff" and "tech meetings" in San Francisco. Because of this, resources have been spread extremely thin this week. This weekend ops and others deeply involved in the 1.18 release process are participating in the New Orleans hackathon. Today they are en route to New Orleans. It simply has not yet been possible to push out a tarball with a beta of MediaWiki 1.18. Monday or Tuesday, things will largely be back to normal, and I think I'm not wrong if many of the WMF techies also want to get a beta of 1.18 out of the door, and will push hard to make that happen next week. Siebrand

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mhershberger＠wikimedia.org

15 Oct 15 Oct

4:14 p.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki 1.18 release plans

"Siebrand Mazeland" <s.mazeland(a)xs4all.nl> writes:

This weekend ops and others deeply involved in the 1.18 release process are participating in the New Orleans hackathon. Today they are en route to New Orleans.

I'll be holding a triage here in New Orleans of the 1.18 regressions that we saw when we deployed 1.18 to enwiki. You can see the list of bugs here with notes (to be added shortly): http://hexm.de/8b Fair warning: it is likely that some of these will turn into tarball blockers. I hope to use this time in New Orleans to start working on an acceptance test suite so that we don't have a big batch of regressions like this again for 1.19. -- Mark A. Hershberger Bugmeister Wikimedia Foundation mhershberger(a)wikimedia.org

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Wjhonson

11:55 p.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] Autolink to Wikipedia

Right now the logic is that if you have a link using the [[ ]] the code will check that there is a page with that name. What I want to do is add to that, that if there is NOT, then it checks to see if there is a page with that name at En.Wikipedia Is there already an extension that does that? Does anyone see any problem with modding the code to do this?

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Daniel Friesen

16 Oct 16 Oct

2:33 a.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] Autolink to Wikipedia

Could be a little tricky to implement efficiently. I don't know if we have a way to batch the links parsed from the parser. ie: Without knowing titles up front it would be a HTTP query to WP for each red [[]] you have in the page. ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name] On 11-10-15 04:55 PM, Wjhonson wrote:

Right now the logic is that if you have a link using the [[ ]] the code will check that there is a page with that name. What I want to do is add to that, that if there is NOT, then it checks to see if there is a page with that name at En.Wikipedia Is there already an extension that does that? Does anyone see any problem with modding the code to do this?

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Platonides

18 Oct 18 Oct

3:42 p.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] Autolink to Wikipedia

Daniel Friesen wrote:

Could be a little tricky to implement efficiently. I don't know if we have a way to batch the links parsed from the parser. ie: Without knowing titles up front it would be a HTTP query to WP for each red [[]] you have in the page.

We do batch the link existance. Wjhonson wrote:

Does anyone see any problem with modding the code to do this?

You don't change the core code. You create an extension that does what you want.

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Wjhonson

4:51 p.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] Autolink to Wikipedia

I agree that some people do that. I don't particularly walk that path myself. Platonides wrote: "You don't change the core code. You create an extension that does what ou want." -----Original Message----- From: Platonides <Platonides(a)gmail.com> To: mediawiki-l <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tue, Oct 18, 2011 8:40 am Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Autolink to Wikipedia Daniel Friesen wrote: Could be a little tricky to implement efficiently. I don't know if we have a way to batch the links parsed from the parser. ie: Without knowing titles up front it would be a HTTP query to WP for each red [[]] you have in the page. We do batch the link existance. Wjhonson wrote: Does anyone see any problem with modding the code to do this? ou don't change the core code. You create an extension that does what ou want. ______________________________________________ ediaWiki-l mailing list ediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org ttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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Jon Davis

16 Oct 16 Oct

11:30 p.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] Autolink to Wikipedia

I read this question 2 ways. #1 - You want an extension that will automatically link words to Wikipedia, that are not currently linked. This would be very difficult to implement efficiently (with multi word titles being taken into account) and would end up with half of your text as wikilinks, IE [1][2][3][4] #2 - You want an extension that will replace redlinks, where possible, with links to wikipedia. I don't know how the parser engine handles links like that, but I'm sure a hack could be made that would be reasonable. Which were you talking about? -Jon [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 16:55, Wjhonson <wjhonson(a)aol.com> wrote:

Right now the logic is that if you have a link using the [[ ]] the code will check that there is a page with that name. What I want to do is add to that, that if there is NOT, then it checks to see if there is a page with that name at En.Wikipedia Is there already an extension that does that? Does anyone see any problem with modding the code to do this? _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

-- Jon [[User:ShakataGaNai]] / KJ6FNQ http://snowulf.com/ http://ipv6wiki.net/

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John Du Hart

17 Oct 17 Oct

12:02 a.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] Autolink to Wikipedia

I'm pretty sure it's #2 On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Jon Davis <wiki(a)konsoletek.com> wrote:

I read this question 2 ways. #1 - You want an extension that will automatically link words to Wikipedia, that are not currently linked. This would be very difficult to implement efficiently (with multi word titles being taken into account) and would end up with half of your text as wikilinks, IE [1][2][3][4] #2 - You want an extension that will replace redlinks, where possible, with links to wikipedia. I don't know how the parser engine handles links like that, but I'm sure a hack could be made that would be reasonable. Which were you talking about? -Jon [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 16:55, Wjhonson <wjhonson(a)aol.com> wrote:

Right now the logic is that if you have a link using the [[ ]] the code will check that there is a page with that name. What I want to do is add to that, that if there is NOT, then it checks to see if there is a page with that name at En.Wikipedia Is there already an extension that does that? Does anyone see any

problem

with modding the code to do this? _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

-- Jon [[User:ShakataGaNai]] / KJ6FNQ http://snowulf.com/ http://ipv6wiki.net/ _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

-- John

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John Vandenberg

12:33 a.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] Autolink to Wikipedia

this might do the trick efficiently: 1. on save, identify redlinks and create pages as '#redirect [[wikipedia:{{{PAGENAME}}}]]' if a wikipedia page exists 2. on html generation, or using JavaScript and the API, find linked redirects containing interwikis and render them in the page as external links to the redirect target, rather than as internal links to a local page containing a external link. If step two is done in php and cached, rather than JS, the cache is stale whenever a redirect page with an interwiki is turned into a normal page with text, so all pages that link to the redirect page will need to be regenerated. -- John Vandenberg

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Daniel Friesen

12:53 a.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] Autolink to Wikipedia

On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:33:04 -0700, John Vandenberg <jayvdb(a)gmail.com> wrote:

this might do the trick efficiently: 1. on save, identify redlinks and create pages as '#redirect [[wikipedia:{{{PAGENAME}}}]]' if a wikipedia page exists 2. on html generation, or using JavaScript and the API, find linked redirects containing interwikis and render them in the page as external links to the redirect target, rather than as internal links to a local page containing a external link. If step two is done in php and cached, rather than JS, the cache is stale whenever a redirect page with an interwiki is turned into a normal page with text, so all pages that link to the redirect page will need to be regenerated.

Editing one of the redirects should trigger a refresh job for the other page. -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]

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Brion Vibber

26 Oct 26 Oct

12:25 a.m.

New subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki 1.18 release plans

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Mark A. Hershberger < mhershberger(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

"Siebrand Mazeland" <s.mazeland(a)xs4all.nl> writes:

This weekend ops and others deeply involved in the 1.18 release process are participating in the New Orleans hackathon. Today they are en route

to

New Orleans.

I'll be holding a triage here in New Orleans of the 1.18 regressions that we saw when we deployed 1.18 to enwiki. You can see the list of bugs here with notes (to be added shortly): http://hexm.de/8b Fair warning: it is likely that some of these will turn into tarball blockers. I hope to use this time in New Orleans to start working on an acceptance test suite so that we don't have a big batch of regressions like this again for 1.19.

Any updated news on release plans? -- brion

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Brion Vibber
Daniel Friesen
Jeroen De Dauw
John Du Hart
John Vandenberg
Jon Davis
mhershberger＠wikimedia.org
Platonides
Siebrand Mazeland
Wjhonson