I've seen that there is a "new" Wiki Adoption Request [1] for WeRelate [2], a wonderful project that might help sourcing birth/death dates and hence copyright status. I was wondering if there should be a standard procedure for this kind of adoption requests. It is very easy to add a support for a project, but not that easy to evaluate the hidden costs (migration, legal deffense, etc), which might require some expertise on the topic.
With all this information at hand, maybe it would be easier to take informed decissions and evaluate the kind of success that is expected from a given adoption.
Micru
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WeRelate [2] http://www.werelate.org
I'm strenuously against any "adoption" by the Foundation of these "one of many" type sites, no matter if they claim they are "the biggest" or not. Once we put our clout behind a site, we are destroying the natural competition engine.
I would further note, that 115,000 pages from "uploaded GEDCOMS" is actually rather paltry. I have 260,000 people in my own personal GEDCOM So I could create this mass of data, alone.
Rather if the Foundation were to wish to partner with a genealogical database I would suggest Rootsweb, or FamilySearch Both of which are *free* and *public* and could possibly be induced to use MediaWiki software as their next evolution in this personal ancestry space.
-----Original Message----- From: David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tue, Jul 16, 2013 7:52 am Subject: [MediaWiki-l] About the wiki-adoption process
I've seen that there is a "new" Wiki Adoption Request [1] for WeRelate [2], a wonderful project that might help sourcing birth/death dates and hence copyright status. I was wondering if there should be a standard procedure for this kind of adoption requests. It is very easy to add a support for a project, but not that easy to evaluate the hidden costs (migration, legal deffense, etc), which might require some expertise on the topic.
With all this information at hand, maybe it would be easier to take informed decissions and evaluate the kind of success that is expected from a given adoption.
Micru
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How is this related to the MediaWiki software?
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Wjhonson wjhonson@aol.com wrote:
I'm strenuously against any "adoption" by the Foundation of these "one of many" type sites, no matter if they claim they are "the biggest" or not. Once we put our clout behind a site, we are destroying the natural competition engine.
I would further note, that 115,000 pages from "uploaded GEDCOMS" is actually rather paltry. I have 260,000 people in my own personal GEDCOM So I could create this mass of data, alone.
Rather if the Foundation were to wish to partner with a genealogical database I would suggest Rootsweb, or FamilySearch Both of which are *free* and *public* and could possibly be induced to use MediaWiki software as their next evolution in this personal ancestry space.
-----Original Message----- From: David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list < mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tue, Jul 16, 2013 7:52 am Subject: [MediaWiki-l] About the wiki-adoption process
I've seen that there is a "new" Wiki Adoption Request [1] for WeRelate [2], a wonderful project that might help sourcing birth/death dates and hence copyright status. I was wondering if there should be a standard procedure for this kind of adoption requests. It is very easy to add a support for a project, but not that easy to evaluate the hidden costs (migration, legal deffense, etc), which might require some expertise on the topic.
With all this information at hand, maybe it would be easier to take informed decissions and evaluate the kind of success that is expected from a given adoption.
Micru
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It's related to the "adoption" by the Foundation. To which, like all other similar co-working arrangements, I strenuously object.
-----Original Message----- From: Alex Monk krenair@gmail.com To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tue, Jul 16, 2013 1:17 pm Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] About the wiki-adoption process
How is this related to the MediaWiki software?
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Wjhonson wjhonson@aol.com wrote:
I'm strenuously against any "adoption" by the Foundation of these "one of many" type sites, no matter if they claim they are "the biggest" or not. Once we put our clout behind a site, we are destroying the natural competition engine.
I would further note, that 115,000 pages from "uploaded GEDCOMS" is actually rather paltry. I have 260,000 people in my own personal GEDCOM So I could create this mass of data, alone.
Rather if the Foundation were to wish to partner with a genealogical database I would suggest Rootsweb, or FamilySearch Both of which are *free* and *public* and could possibly be induced to use MediaWiki software as their next evolution in this personal ancestry space.
-----Original Message----- From: David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list < mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tue, Jul 16, 2013 7:52 am Subject: [MediaWiki-l] About the wiki-adoption process
I've seen that there is a "new" Wiki Adoption Request [1] for WeRelate [2], a wonderful project that might help sourcing birth/death dates and hence copyright status. I was wondering if there should be a standard procedure for this kind of adoption requests. It is very easy to add a support for a project, but not that easy to evaluate the hidden costs (migration, legal deffense, etc), which might require some expertise on the topic.
With all this information at hand, maybe it would be easier to take informed decissions and evaluate the kind of success that is expected from a given adoption.
Micru
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Ups, sorry, wrong list! I meant to send it to Wikimedia-l. I will forward it to the other one.
Sorry again about my mistake.
Micru
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Wjhonson wjhonson@aol.com wrote:
It's related to the "adoption" by the Foundation. To which, like all other similar co-working arrangements, I strenuously object.
-----Original Message----- From: Alex Monk krenair@gmail.com To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list < mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tue, Jul 16, 2013 1:17 pm Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] About the wiki-adoption process
How is this related to the MediaWiki software?
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Wjhonson wjhonson@aol.com wrote:
I'm strenuously against any "adoption" by the Foundation of these "one of many" type sites, no matter if they claim they are "the biggest" or not. Once we put our clout behind a site, we are destroying the natural competition engine.
I would further note, that 115,000 pages from "uploaded GEDCOMS" is actually rather paltry. I have 260,000 people in my own personal GEDCOM So I could create this mass of data, alone.
Rather if the Foundation were to wish to partner with a genealogical database I would suggest Rootsweb, or FamilySearch Both of which are *free* and *public* and could possibly be induced to
use
MediaWiki software as their next evolution in this personal ancestry
space.
-----Original Message----- From: David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list < mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tue, Jul 16, 2013 7:52 am Subject: [MediaWiki-l] About the wiki-adoption process
I've seen that there is a "new" Wiki Adoption Request [1] for WeRelate
[2],
a wonderful project that might help sourcing birth/death dates and hence copyright status. I was wondering if there should be a standard procedure for this kind of adoption requests. It is very easy to add a support for
a
project, but not that easy to evaluate the hidden costs (migration, legal deffense, etc), which might require some expertise on the topic.
With all this information at hand, maybe it would be easier to take informed decissions and evaluate the kind of success that is expected
from
a given adoption.
Micru
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I agree with Wjhonson, linking to social networks is IMO enough, although no one knows if it would be a beneficial partnership. Maybe at a later date. Everyone here I'm sure is aware of how quick the best of websites can be bellyup.
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On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Wjhonson wjhonson@aol.com wrote:
It's related to the "adoption" by the Foundation. To which, like all other similar co-working arrangements, I strenuously object.
-----Original Message----- From: Alex Monk krenair@gmail.com To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list < mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tue, Jul 16, 2013 1:17 pm Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] About the wiki-adoption process
How is this related to the MediaWiki software?
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Wjhonson wjhonson@aol.com wrote:
I'm strenuously against any "adoption" by the Foundation of these "one of many" type sites, no matter if they claim they are "the biggest" or not. Once we put our clout behind a site, we are destroying the natural competition engine.
I would further note, that 115,000 pages from "uploaded GEDCOMS" is actually rather paltry. I have 260,000 people in my own personal GEDCOM So I could create this mass of data, alone.
Rather if the Foundation were to wish to partner with a genealogical database I would suggest Rootsweb, or FamilySearch Both of which are *free* and *public* and could possibly be induced to
use
MediaWiki software as their next evolution in this personal ancestry
space.
-----Original Message----- From: David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list < mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tue, Jul 16, 2013 7:52 am Subject: [MediaWiki-l] About the wiki-adoption process
I've seen that there is a "new" Wiki Adoption Request [1] for WeRelate
[2],
a wonderful project that might help sourcing birth/death dates and hence copyright status. I was wondering if there should be a standard procedure for this kind of adoption requests. It is very easy to add a support for
a
project, but not that easy to evaluate the hidden costs (migration, legal deffense, etc), which might require some expertise on the topic.
With all this information at hand, maybe it would be easier to take informed decissions and evaluate the kind of success that is expected
from
a given adoption.
Micru
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