Do you work with authentification? Maybe your Session was terminatet by timeout or similar things
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von laurent Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. März 2006 16:19 An: mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Betreff: [Mediawiki-l] Saving a page, much later
Hi,
Users of mine are running into a problematic situation where a page is left in "edit" mode for several hours. At the end of the day they press "Save" and instead of directly saving, the page shows up a preview.
Users have checked the "Remember me" box so that login shouldn't be an issue here.
Any ideas?
Apache/debien/mediawiki server, firefox/windowsxp clients.
Thanks
Laurent _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
Vasiliadis, Thomas wrote:
Do you work with authentification? Maybe your Session was terminatet by timeout or similar things
I assumed that since "Remember me" is selected, sessions would not timeout. When the user presses the save button, a preview is displayed. Just clicking save again will save the page without requiring a login... So I wonder, what happens if someone else modified the same page during the day? Would the preview show the changes of both users? Would the middle user lose its changes?
jdd wrote:
this is a bad idea, but it happens to me also :-(
I understand. I try to teach my users not to do that, but sometimes it's more of a matter of writing a page, being distracted for several hours, then coming back to the computer and going "Woah, i should finish writing this."
Is there a mechanism in mediawiki to deal with such things? Does mediawiki check if changes have occured so that a conflict would occur and request the user to "merge" his own page along with the other page?
Regards, Laurent
This *could* be a problem with loss of session data causing the edit token mechanism to balls up, but I'd wait for a definite opinion from Brion on that.
As to the second question; MediaWiki *can* handle some edit conflicts, and can merge in changes from other users in some cases. Where the changes conflict, the edit form is bounced back and the user has to resolve the conflict themselves. See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict for more information, although I've no idea how up-to-date that is.
Rob Church
On 29/03/06, laurent laurent@sem.ca wrote:
Vasiliadis, Thomas wrote:
Do you work with authentification? Maybe your Session was terminatet by timeout or similar things
I assumed that since "Remember me" is selected, sessions would not timeout. When the user presses the save button, a preview is displayed. Just clicking save again will save the page without requiring a login... So I wonder, what happens if someone else modified the same page during the day? Would the preview show the changes of both users? Would the middle user lose its changes?
jdd wrote:
this is a bad idea, but it happens to me also :-(
I understand. I try to teach my users not to do that, but sometimes it's more of a matter of writing a page, being distracted for several hours, then coming back to the computer and going "Woah, i should finish writing this."
Is there a mechanism in mediawiki to deal with such things? Does mediawiki check if changes have occured so that a conflict would occur and request the user to "merge" his own page along with the other page?
Regards, Laurent
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laurent wrote:
Is there a mechanism in mediawiki to deal with such things?
there is one to prevent you from erasing others work.
it's even boring. on wikipedia I had several times benevolent people adding categories on the page I was just editing. It's very easy to lose work with this, so the advice of making a copy of the text :-)
I could even make a draft on my own mediawiki, but it's boring when one deal with images.
noboby's perfect :-)
jdd
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