Hello:
I've looked around for the answers to these questions but have not found any solutions or suggestions.
1) When looking at Special Page > User list, I noticed that some users have a "created on" date beside their user name like:
Some User (Created on 22 March 2007 at 14:02)
And some do not have anything beside their user name.
What causes this to happen?
2) Is there a way to tell if a user who has an account has "never" logged in?
Thanks so much for your help with these basic questions.
Patricia Barden patricia@prwatch.org
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Patricia Barden patricia@prwatch.orgwrote:
Hello:
I've looked around for the answers to these questions but have not found any solutions or suggestions.
- When looking at Special Page > User list, I noticed that some users
have a "created on" date beside their user name like:
Some User (Created on 22 March 2007 at 14:02)
And some do not have anything beside their user name.
What causes this to happen?
If you go back far enough you may find user accounts created under versions of MediaWiki that didn't record the account creation date; this is probably what you're seeing.
- Is there a way to tell if a user who has an account has "never" logged
in?
Hmmmm, not sure if there's a reliable one. You can check if user_touched has been updated BUT this gets updated for things like people leaving messages on their talk page.
-- brion
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:
If you go back far enough you may find user accounts created under versions of MediaWiki that didn't record the account creation date; this is probably what you're seeing.
There has to be more to it than that. The creation date for User:Brion VIBBER, for instance, is displayed, even though the date for accounts created much later isn't.
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:
Hmmmm, not sure if there's a reliable one. You can check if user_touched has been updated BUT this gets updated for things like people leaving messages on their talk page.
It gets reset for a user if other people edit that user's talk page? That kind of seems like a bug. :-)
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Benjamin Lees emufarmers@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:
Hmmmm, not sure if there's a reliable one. You can check if user_touched has been updated BUT this gets updated for things like people leaving messages on their talk page.
It gets reset for a user if other people edit that user's talk page? That kind of seems like a bug. :-)
Probably (one of?) the reason(s) is so that pages will get the orange "new message" notif box even if they're revisiting a page they already saw recently which is in their browser's cache.
-Jeremy
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Benjamin Lees emufarmers@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:
If you go back far enough you may find user accounts created under
versions
of MediaWiki that didn't record the account creation date; this is
probably
what you're seeing.
There has to be more to it than that. The creation date for User:Brion VIBBER, for instance, is displayed, even though the date for accounts created much later isn't.
Some, but not all, accounts had creation dates retroactively filled in.
Hmmmm, not sure if there's a reliable one. You can check if user_touched
has been updated BUT this gets updated for things like people leaving messages on their talk page.
It gets reset for a user if other people edit that user's talk page? That kind of seems like a bug. :-)
No, it's quite deliberate -- that's how their cached pages get cleared to make room for the "You've got messages" indicator.
-- brion
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