Mike .. that was one of the funniest emails I ever read .. On first blush I thought 'Hey .. this guy is serious' but then after rereading and writing a flame that might have brought the net down itself I got it. It was the 'hyperbole' that I had missed. Of course that got me to understand that this was some kind of satirical look at business from that 'apple kid' character on the commercials. As they say .. thanks I needed that <g>
" This will sound more negative than I intend, but bear with me - I'll
use a bit of hyperbole to make a point"
The problem with hyperbole is that it usually misses the mark completely <g>
And don't take this wrong <G>
"The business community has been getting a free ride on Internet stuff
for a long time now. They have done little to contribute to the ... "
They've done little to contribute .. I can only assume that this was meant as comic relief.
OR
"I see a lot of demand for the kind of secure/restricted/whatever
versions of wikis for business. I think that the business community should get together and _pay_ for such a system and then sell it to .. "
When I do something for any of my clients I get paid for it. If I make an extension either it is my time or a clients. In either SOMEONE is paying for it.
This idea that businesses who give time/resources to Open Source projects really aren't paying is nonsense. I don't know about you but I get paid well for what I do. If I spend my time (which most of this is) then I am paying .. if I get paid by my clients then they are paying.
As my daddy always said .. TNSTAAFL
DSig David Tod Sigafoos | SANMAR Corporation
-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael Daly Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 14:33 To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: [Mediawiki-l] [SPAM] Re: Looking for MW Business Users
Dave Sigafoos wrote:
a location where problems that have come up trying to do 'business' things with MW are addressed. As mentioned in my original post, these are things that will probably never fit into the MW/WP world. As you mentioned 'access restriction', different reporting/special pages. Processes that 'implementors' (probably better than business?) might need that WikiWorld wont.
This will sound more negative than I intend, but bear with me - I'll use
a bit of hyperbole to make a point.
The business community has been getting a free ride on Internet stuff for a long time now. They have done little to contribute to the development of the Internet, WWW or much of anything else (network and software- or hardware-specific companies excepted). Yet they have been quick to grab onto whatever they can and warp it into something it was not intended to be (e.g - the WWW, a document publishing mechanism became a transaction processing system with kludges to HTML etc to support retail operations).
If the business community really needs something on the Internet, maybe they should put their money where their mouth is and make substantial contributions to the whole effort instead of taking stuff for free and expecting it to be modified to their wants.
---- I see a lot of demand for the kind of secure/restricted/whatever versions of wikis for business. I think that the business community should get together and _pay_ for such a system and then sell it to other businesses. Leave the wikis to the wiki users and create a lightweight document management system for businesses if that's what they really want.
Mike