I'm not going to get into a tit for tat. If you've read this thread you will see that I've both offered lots of help to newbies (other than just telling them to read the wiki), and I've thanked people for the help I received. I also solved some problems that other people offered partial solutions to, and I explained why the full solution worked better than the partial solution. I was just asking for someone to point me the direction as to where to get started: i.e. where to look in the code. Instead, I was told that I was in the wrong for asking such a question. This is not the kind of attitude I came to this forum with, and it is isn't the kind of attitude I expect from others.
Go ahead and defend your friends, but don't do so out of context.
kerim
On Aug 4, 2004, at 9:18 AM, Shimmie wrote:
P. Kerim friedman wrote:
But now I seem to be getting a Micro$oft type of reply That isn't why I use open source software!
That is totally uncalled for. Open source software is not about getting free support. Its about giving you the code so you can change it to your hearts content. If you can't do that yourself, then either pay someone to do it for you or buy commercial software instead.
The people who devote hours and years of their time to provide you with free things work very hard for nothing, don't owe you anthing, and certainly don't need your bitching.
By looking at the list below you certainly take advantage of free software, I hope you give back.
Simon.
----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Kerim friedman" kerim.mail@oxus.net To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] How does MediaWiki submit edits?
On Aug 4, 2004, at 2:50 AM, Brion Vibber wrote:
The crappy forwarding scheme is your problem
Every other software I've installed on my system:
Pagetool TikiWiki ActivePHPBookmarks Nucleus MovableType WordPress
Have ALL been able to handle this "crappy forwarding scheme" just fine. Media Wiki is the only one that hasn't. The forwarding system is actually quite robust, it is simply a frame, nothing else. It can handle metatags. The reason I use it is too complex to explain, but many people use such systems, whether because they share hosting with other people, use subdomains, wish to remain able to easily change hosts, etc. That is why all the above software have provisions to allow people to do just that.
But all I'm asking is for some help understanding WHY it isn't working. You've been very helpful so far, but obviously you don't wish to help any more. That's fine. But maybe someone else might know why the forms aren't working. Absolute URLs, with the proper domain will all work as if they were on the host domain. I like MediaWiki, and you have all been very helpful up to now. But now I seem to be getting a Micro$oft type of reply: if the software doesn't work the way you want, change how you do things. That isn't why I use open source software!
I'm not much of a programmer, so if hacking the forms is truly too complicated, I may just have to give up. But I'd like to give it a try.
Thanks again!
kerim
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