Hi all,
Please know that I am working (with Yaron) to update the Page Forms extension to provide a new field tag that will support the overlay of points and shapes annotations over an existing image. We will announce this new capability here when it is available. My hope is to announce it by next week. Wish us luck.
/Rich
From: Bryan Hilderbrand [mailto:bryanh@tegnosis.wiki] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 12:50 PM To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) richard.k.evans@nasa.gov; Yaron Koren yaron@wikiworks.com; semediawiki-user semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [MediaWiki-l] [Semediawiki-user] interior maps extension
Hi all,
I use ImageMap [0] like Krabina suggested to do something similar. In my opinion, ImageMap has some issues that hopefully get resolved like "mystery meat navigation" [1][2] and no Visual Editor support or even on-wiki editing, although there are some ways [3]. In my experience, this has prevented all but the most dedicated users from using ImageMap and forces them to use external tools if they do [4].
I did run across an interesting use of "maps" on a video game website [5] that seems to be just overlaying an animated gif over a map at a coordinate.
[0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMaphttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AImageMap&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=T3v2wSo1tK8nJq83QqVHaNy2MORZzXfiFPv2fZH4ul8&e= [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_map#Creation_and_usehttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Image-5Fmap-23Creation-5Fand-5Fuse&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=gYzYibsD1qP1V4_FE2PmXeF5nEThrOH6twAD_-7YQLY&e= [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_meat_navigationhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Mystery-5Fmeat-5Fnavigation&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=LQwoutxIbp0qdLg6kKz2bu-ifqv9Mt42V9BWx7LTcaA&e= [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dapete/ImageMapEdit#Englishhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__meta.wikimedia.org_wiki_User-3ADapete_ImageMapEdit-23English&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=NscEwxlPNX2LSuTQwNMYW3JUhxRBVkaTUxTCeEgQj9g&e= [4] http://maschek.hu/imagemap/imgmap/https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__maschek.hu_imagemap_imgmap_&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=5PnnynJVRPyhbSdQuznT1egSrvWUQHYlULUCAG8TUfw&e= [5] https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Template:Tooltip_Coordshttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lotro-2Dwiki.com_index.php_Template-3ATooltip-5FCoords&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=JPwwtA-m2UgM5YA7yUqqebM5VmWPLE3IxhF9Vff0GpA&e=
Regards, Bryan
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 7:10 AM Krabina Bernhard <krabina@kdz.or.atmailto:krabina@kdz.or.at> wrote: Hi,
yes, I think there should be the possibility in maps to have custom images instead of an actual map where you can display points. I have never used this myself, though.
There is another option: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMaphttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AImageMap&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=T3v2wSo1tK8nJq83QqVHaNy2MORZzXfiFPv2fZH4ul8&e=
cheers, Bernhard
----- Am 8. Jun 2019 um 15:05 schrieb semediawiki-user semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net:
Hi Yaron, thanks for responding and great insights as usual. These are times I wish I had more programming experience.. I’d enthusiastically take on the task of bringing points data entry and query back to page forms. For us Enterprise MW users I would argue that this feature is essential in every enterprise application whether people know it or not, ha ha.. Being able to quickly graphically annotate an image of parking lot or an exit plan or a Road closure .. These are Basic enterprise applications.
I would think you would want to recover this capability in page Foms just to keep all such data collection under one extension. Otherwise some lesser extension will come along and try to do it.
If you do decide to include this in page forms, do you have any thoughts on How many hours of effort to implement?
I’m not sure which I’m more excited about, the prospect of internal maps added to page forms or the project management extension that you mentioned not too long ago. Please don’t ever underestimate your contribution to the enterprise world. It’s amazing. You really have done and continue to do great work.
On: 07 June 2019 18:03, "Yaron Koren" <yaron@wikiworks.commailto:yaron@wikiworks.com<mailto:yaron@wikiworks.commailto:yaron@wikiworks.com>> wrote: Hi Rich,
It should be noted that the use of images as maps comprises two parts: entering the data, and viewing the data. I don't believe either one is currently possible, though I could be wrong. For data entry, I think the easiest way to add support for it would be to modify either the "openlayers" or "leaflet" input types in Page Forms to allow for using an uploaded image as the map - both OpenLayers and Leaflet inherently allow for such a thing. And for viewing the data - Semantic MediaWiki has a "leaflet" result format (via the Maps extension), while Cargo has an "openlayers" format. Both could similarly be modified to allow for displaying query results on an uploaded image.
It should be noted that, about ten years ago, both entry and viewing of image-based maps were possible, via the extensions then called Semantic Maps and Semantic Forms. This is one of those features that just stopped being supported, due I guess to lack of interest. Which is too bad, because it does seem useful for a lot of different applications. But it never really got usage before. Maybe now is a good time to bring this feature back, if enough people show an interest in it.
I should also note that there's an extension called Semantic Image Annotator:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Image_Annotatorhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ASemantic-5FImage-5FAnnotator&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=jq1tKucgGnT3UcHyGs4loiWWoHLeoziCiz5dq9s64-c&e=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ASemantic-5FImage-5FAnnotator&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=egpiK3-6Rd5BIHLcRDv9289t0b1zeob3n51FOs1Rgic&e=
It lets you both add and query data, but the data it deals with is rectangles on an image and not points, so it may not be what you're looking for. Maybe it's fine, though.
-Yaron
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:08 PM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) via Semediawiki-user <semediawiki-<mailto:semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:semediawiki-user@lists.sourceforge.net>user@lists.source<mailto:user@lists.sourcemailto:user@lists.source>forge.nethttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__forge.net&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=Iu2JaIVwj5Zg5G6Q_KU9MWO1GPej-Kl4zBDkbhu0Jz4&e=> wrote: Happy Friday - What extension is best for annotating interior floor plans and user maps uploaded as images?
Is anyone doing this? What do people here recommend?
I've been trying to learn how to use the "Maps" extension [1] but it's not clear to me if custom interior maps are possible with Maps.
OpenLayers [2] and Cargo [3] look promising but I don't know how to get started with them for custom interior maps. I dive in and learn it if I knew upfront that they had the capability. Can anyone tell me what they're doing?
/Rich
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