It seems like a well balanced response :-) So if we compare ACL extensions to Windows, we will say that it' stable, but may crash sometimes. I would like to thank you all again for all these varied comments. It really help !
-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Yury Katkov Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 10:24 PM To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Mediawiki as an Enterprise wiki
In fact there are some ACL extensions that are used by consultancies, see [1], [2]. Bluespice is probably one of the coolest MediaWiki-based enterprise system which can be used entirely or as part of your enterprise wiki. What you should always have in mind is that you don't have a guarantee that the information you've hidden is unaccessible. In other words you can use ACL extensions so that different groups of your users can see different sets of pages, but you certainly don't want to store the people credit cards numbers in a hidden pages.
[1] http://diqa-pm.com/de/Main_Page [2] https://gesinn.it/de/semantic-apps ----- Yury Katkov, WikiVote
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:04 AM, Pierre Labrecque pierre.labrecque@live.cawrote:
Yes, I understand... unfortunately, I understand :-) Last question: if all this is true (ACL side), what do you think of: http://www.blue-spice.org/ It seems they use an ACL extension as a workaround of the MW limitations, no ? Thanks again for all your comments !
-----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 6:48 PM To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Cc: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Mediawiki as an Enterprise wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_control_list
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Security_issues_with_authorization_exten sions
By design MW is not a CMS. You need a content management system with a good ACL built in.
You are asking for too much with your example but a CMS could handle it just fine. e.g. Type 'Secret Docs' - Tech 1 could be a Company A, B, C maintainer. Tech 2 could be a Company C, D, E, F maintainer. Tech 3 could be a Company A and E maintainer. All 3 techs could also be in a Type 'Public Docs' group.
You can take it even further with Tech 3 being a read only user. So the tech could read Company A and E docs on Tech 1 can edit A and Tech 2 can edit E.
MW does have permissions but they are group based. ACL in a CMS can compare group, user, content(page), category, state(read, edit, etc.) then make sure a user has met every Access Control before proceeding.
Tom
On Aug 10, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Pierre Labrecque pierre.labrecque@live.ca wrote:
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