MediaWiki-l May 2020

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Lis tes messages avant qu'ils ne soient effacés!
by Badoo 31 Dec '23

31 Dec '23

Lis ton message de Nganguem Victor avant qu'il ne soit effacé! Pour lire ton message, suis simplement ce lien: http://eu1.badoo.com/chatnoirxx/in/p4hxwt052ok/?lang_id=6 D'autres personnes sont aussi présentes: Oded (Tel Aviv, Israël) Priya (Udaipur, Inde) RajaYogi BK (Udaipur, Inde) Karuna (Udaipur, Inde) Chika Reginald Onyia (Pnompen', Cambodge) ...Qui d'autre? http://eu1.badoo.com/chatnoirxx/in/p4hxwt052ok/?lang_id=6 Les liens ne fonctionnent pas dans ce message? Copie les dans la barre d'adresse de ton navigateur. Tu as reçu cet email suite à un message envoyé par Nganguem Victor de notre système. S'il s'agit d'une erreur, ignore simplement cet email. La requête sera alors effacée du système. Amuse-toi bien ! L'équipe Badoo Courrier automatique de Badoo suite à l'envoi d'un message à ton attention sur Badoo. Les réponses ne sont ni stockées, ni traitées. Si tu ne veux plus recevoir de message de Badoo, fais-le nous savoir: http://eu1.badoo.com/impersonation.phtml?lang_id=6&mail_code=65&email=media…

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New Code of Conduct committee candidates
by Amir Sarabadani 10 Jun '20

10 Jun '20

Hello, The committee has finished selecting new members and the new committee candidates are (In alphabetical order): - Amir Sarabadani - Martin Urbanec - MusikAnimal - Tonina Zhelyazkova - Tony Thomas And auxiliary members will be (Also in alphabetical order): - Huji - Jayprakash12345 - Matanya - Nuria Ruiz - Tpt You can read more about the members in [0] The changes compared to last term are: * Lucie has resigned in September 2019. Tpt (as one of auxiliary members) filled her seat in the meantime and now Tpt is moving to be an auxiliary member again. * Martin Urbanec is joining the main committee to fill Lucie/Tpt seat * Jay Prakash is joining auxiliary members * Rosalie is leaving the auxiliary members. This is not the final structure. According to the CoC [1], the current committee publishes the new members and call for public feedback for *six weeks* and after that, the current committee might apply changes to the structure based on public feedback. Please let the committee know if you have any concern regarding the members and its structure until *09 June 2019* and after that, the new committee will be in effect and will serve for a year. [0]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Committee/Members/Candidates [1]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Committee#Selection_of_new_m… Amir, On behalf of the Code of Conduct committee Best

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Font size related inline images
by Emyoulation＠yahoo.com 30 May '20

30 May '20

Sorry if this an 'asked & answered' topic. After stumbling through MediaWiki for a couple years, I still find the documentation fairly unnavigable. (When an appropriate page is discovered, it often seems to say something can be done & gives an example but the markup cannot be viewed.) Just subscribed to the maillist today and have not yet discovered how to search its archives. Nor do I know the correct search terms. Anyway... We use MediaWiki for our open source software project documentation. Can images be resized to match whatever font size the visitor is using for inline graphics? That is, are there resolution independent terms instead of pixels (px)? The 'vertical alignment' references text-top & text-bottom... so the image handler already knows these dimensions. In particular, I have icons from the GUI that I'd like fit inline without affecting the leading.I also hope to float left, spanning 2 to 3 lines... similar to the way you'd use a drop cap. Currently, my icon images in px almost disappear on a high DPI display. -Brian Reference examples:https://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/Gramps_Glossary#prim… https://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_5.1_Wiki_Manual_… https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/Template:Man_button

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Fetching multiple diffs at once
by A Person 29 May '20

29 May '20

Can multiple diffs be fetched in the same API request? If not, what is the best way to obtain diffs (in HTML form) for many revision IDs at once? Suggestions involving the Wikimedia Toolforge replica databases would also work, since I'm working on a Toolforge tool. Thanks, Enterprisey

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Abstract Schema and Schema changes, request for help
by Amir Sarabadani 28 May '20

28 May '20

Hello, In case you haven't done any changes on database schema of mediawiki core, let me explain the process to you (if you know this, feel free to skip this paragraph): * Mediawiki core supports three types of RDBMS: MySQL, Sqlite, Postgres. It used to be five (plus Oracle and MSSQL) * For each one of these types, you need to do three parts: 1- Change the tables.sql file so new installations get the new schema 2- Make .sql schema change file, like an "ALTER TABLE" for current installations so they can upgrade. 3- Wire that schema change file into *Updater.php file. * For example, this is a patch to drop a column: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/473601 This file touches 14 different files, adds 94 lines and removes 30. This is bad for several reasons: * It is extremely complicated to do a even a simple schema change. Usually something as simple as adding an column takes a whole day for me. There are lots of complicating factors, like Sqlite doesn't have ALTER TABLE, so when you want to make a patch for adding a column, you need to make a temporary table with the new column, copy the old table data to it, drop the old table and then rename the old table. ** Imagine the pain and sorrow when you want to normalize a table meaning you need to do several schema changes: 1- Add a table, 2- Add a column on the old table, 3- make the column not-nullable when it's filled and make the old column nullable instead 4- drop the old column. * It's almost impossible to test all DBMS types, I don't have MSSQL or Oracle installed and I don't even know their differences with MySQL. I assume most other developers are good in one type, not all. * Writing raw sqls, specially duplicated ones, and doubly specially when we don't have CI to test (because we won't install propriety software in our infra) is pretty much prone to error. My favourite one was that a new column on a table was actually added to the wrong table in MSSQL and it went unnoticed for two years (four releases, including one LTS). * It's impossible to support more DBMS types through extensions or other third party systems. Because the maintainer needs to keep up with all patches we add to core and write their equivalents. * For lots of reasons, these schemas are diverging, there have been several work to just reduce this to a minimum. There was a RFC to introduce abstract schema and schema changes and it got accepted and I have been working to implement this: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191231 This is not a small task, and like any big work, it's important to cut it to small pieces and gradually improve things. So my plan is first, I abstract the schema (tables.sql files), then slowly I abstract schema changes. For now, the plan is to make these .sql files automatically generated through maintenance scripts. So we will have a file called tables.json and when running something like: php maintenance/generateSchemaSql.php --json maintenance/tables.json --sql maintenance/tables-generated.sql --type=mysql It would produce tables-generated.sql file. The code that produces it is Doctrine DBAL and this is already installed as a dev dependency of core because you would need Doctrine if you want to make a schema change, if you maintain an instance, you should not need anything. Most of the work for automatically generating schema is already merged and the last part that wires it (and migrates two tables) is up for review: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/595240 My request is that I need to make lots of patches and since I'm doing this in my volunteer capacity, I need developers to review (and potentially help with the work if you're excited about this like me). Let me know if you're willing to be added in future patches and the current patch also welcomes any feedback: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/595240 I have added the documentation in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Schema_changes for the plan and future changes. The ideal goal is that when you want to do a schema change, you just change tables.json and create a json file that is snapshot of before and after table (remember, sqlite doesn't have alter table, meaning it has to know the whole table). Also, once we are in a good shape in migrating mediawiki core, we can start cleaning up extensions. Any feedback is also welcome. Best -- Amir (he/him)

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New episode of Between the Brackets: Will Kavanagh
by Yaron Koren 26 May '20

26 May '20

Hi, A new episode is out of the MediaWiki podcast Between the Brackets: this one is an interview with Will Kavanagh, who is the Global Community Lead for Fandom, the website previously known as Wikia. We talked about the current ongoing project to update Fandom's wikis from MediaWiki 1.19 to 1.33, the benefits of video games, and a bunch of other topics. You can listen to the whole episode here: https://betweenthebrackets.libsyn.com/episode-61-will-kavanagh -Yaron

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"Library" for sharing useful resources for learning technical topics
by Amir Sarabadani 26 May '20

26 May '20

Hello, Recently, I stumbled upon a technical writing course which I found very useful and I wanted to share it and thought of sending an email to wikitech-l recommending it. Also, I've been looking for a resource about VueJS with not much luck and wanted to send an email asking if anyone knows any. Instead, I have this idea to have a virtual library for developers so they can share useful resources with each other. You go to a wiki page and see list of courses, books, conference videos, on each topic and different people recommanding them. You can also request a resource for a topic and people respond to you. If the wiki page grows too big, we can split them to sub pages based on topics, and so on. I started the page in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Ladsgroup/Library but I'm planning to move it to the main namespace if no one objects. Please take a look, add more recommandations, co-sign, request for a resource, respond to a request for a resource, etc. What do you think? Please let me know if you think it's a horrible idea or you have feedback on details (mediawiki.org? maybe we should move it to wikitech.wikimedia.org?) Hope that'd be useful. Best -- Amir (he/him)

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Reminder: Don't set $wgDBprefix when you're using Postgres
by Amir Sarabadani 17 May '20

17 May '20

Hello, In the documentation of $wgDBprefix [0], it has been explicitly mentioned that you should not set this if you're using Postgres as your DBMS since 2006. We are depending on this assumption on new places now [1] and if you set this, please unset and fix your database ASAP otherwise you end up with some tables that have the prefix and some that don't which I assume wouldn't be really fun. Thank you for your understanding [0]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDBprefix [1]: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/595316#message-9c1b408f7b… Best -- Amir (he/him)

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New episode of Between the Brackets: Amir Aharoni
by Yaron Koren 12 May '20

12 May '20

Hi, There's a new episode of the MediaWiki podcast Between the Brackets: this one is an interview with Amir Aharoni, who is a strategist in the Language team of the Wikimedia Foundation. You can listen to the episode here: http://betweenthebrackets.libsyn.com/episode-60-amir-aharoni -Yaron

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