MediaWiki-l May 2019

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Lis tes messages avant qu'ils ne soient effacés!
by Badoo 31 Dec '23

31 Dec '23

Lis ton message de Nganguem Victor avant qu'il ne soit effacé! Pour lire ton message, suis simplement ce lien: http://eu1.badoo.com/chatnoirxx/in/p4hxwt052ok/?lang_id=6 D'autres personnes sont aussi présentes: Oded (Tel Aviv, Israël) Priya (Udaipur, Inde) RajaYogi BK (Udaipur, Inde) Karuna (Udaipur, Inde) Chika Reginald Onyia (Pnompen', Cambodge) ...Qui d'autre? http://eu1.badoo.com/chatnoirxx/in/p4hxwt052ok/?lang_id=6 Les liens ne fonctionnent pas dans ce message? Copie les dans la barre d'adresse de ton navigateur. Tu as reçu cet email suite à un message envoyé par Nganguem Victor de notre système. S'il s'agit d'une erreur, ignore simplement cet email. La requête sera alors effacée du système. Amuse-toi bien ! L'équipe Badoo Courrier automatique de Badoo suite à l'envoi d'un message à ton attention sur Badoo. Les réponses ne sont ni stockées, ni traitées. Si tu ne veux plus recevoir de message de Badoo, fais-le nous savoir: http://eu1.badoo.com/impersonation.phtml?lang_id=6&mail_code=65&email=media…

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New Code of Conduct committee candidates
by Amir Sarabadani 20 Jun '19

20 Jun '19

Hello, The committee has finished selecting new members and the new committee candidates are (In alphabetical order): - Amir Sarabadani - Lucie-Aimée Kaffee - MusikAnimal - Tonina Zhelyazkova - Tony Thomas And auxiliary members will be (In alphabetical order): - Huji - Matanya - Nuria Ruiz - Rosalie Perside - Tpt You can read more about the members in [0] The changes are: * Nuria and Rosalie are moving from main member to auxilary members * MusikAnimal is moving from auxilary member to main * Tonina Zhelyazkova is joining the main members This is not the final structure. According to the CoC [1], the current committee publishes the new members and call for public feedback for *six weeks* and after that, the current committtee might apply changes to the structure based on public feedback. Please let the committee know if you have any concern regarding the members and its structure until *19 June 2019* and after that, the new committee will be in effect and will serve for a year. [0]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Committee/Members/Candidates [1]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Committee#Selection_of_new_m… Amir, On behalf of the Code of Conduct committee Best

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Advice needed for BPM flowchart support for MediaWiki
by Yaron Koren 05 Jun '19

05 Jun '19

Hi, I am thinking seriously about creating, or at least helping to oversee the creation of, a MediaWiki extension that lets users create flowcharts for use in BPM (business process management, or business process modeling). The extension would most likely be a wrapper around bpmn-js, an open source JavaScript library that does this sort of thing pretty nicely: http://bpmn.io/toolkit/bpmn-js/ There already is a MediaWiki extension that includes bpmn-js - Cognitive Process Designer: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cognitive_Process_Designer However, my understanding is that it no longer works with recent versions of MediaWiki. Also, I disagree with some of the design decisions made on that extension, so I think creating a new extension makes sense. I'm not actually looking for funding or development help at the moment - though both of those would be great to have - but rather some advice. I'm looking for people who have dealt with BPM, and would like to be able to edit and display such charts, and BPM information in general, in a wiki. If this description fits you, please email me back - I have a bunch of questions and ideas I want to bounce off other people. -Yaron -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com

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New episode of "Between the Brackets": Alex Tanchoco
by Yaron Koren 30 May '19

30 May '19

Hi, A new episode of the MediaWiki podcast Between the Brackets has been published (well, it was published yesterday): an interview with Alex Tanchoco, who runs the internal wiki at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York City. You can listen to the episode here: http://betweenthebrackets.libsyn.com/episode-35-alex-tanchoco -Yaron

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Advertising policy for the MediaWiki mailing list
by Pine W 25 May '19

25 May '19

*Discussion forked from the thread that started with https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2019-May/047973.html* Hello Andre, I believe that this mailing list is run with WMF hardware and software, so I conclude that this is not a community mailing list any more than Wikipedia is a community website. They are both under the technical and legal control of WMF, and WMF can intervene at any time in a variety of ways, although the copyrights to the content usually are owned by individual contributors (or their employers) and in that sense the content but not the technical infrastructure is owned by the community. There are many social processes where WMF chooses not to intervene, and community members have developed varied and sometimes sophisticated self-governance mechanisms, but that does not mean that WMF has permanently gifted control of its infrastructure to the community or that this is a mailing list that is not run with WMF money. Maybe a way to think about the issue is that both WMF and the community share space on this mailing list, with hardware and technical services belonging to WMF, and content mostly belonging to individual contributors or to their employers. I think that WMF resources generally should not be used for advertising third party services, whether or not they are related to the subject of a mailing list. I would feel differently if this mailing list was not a WMF resource that is supported by donations that I think donors intend for the benefit of Wikipedia and the sister projects. I am more accepting of an on-wiki list of third party related services, such as the one that you linked. Also, I don't want to discourage good faith discussion of third party MediaWiki services, such as if someone asks for advice regarding which provider to select, but I think that the email announcement that started this thread is far removed from acceptable uses for WMF donor funded resources such as this mailing list. If someone wants to propose a change to the mailing list description, they can try that. My interpretation of the existing description is that advertising is not allowed on this list, and I think that is the way that it should be. On the other hand, I am not sensing much support in this thread for enforcing my interpretation of policy or my views of appropriate uses for donor-supported resources, so I won't press this issue further at this time unless I hear more support for my views. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, May 9, 2019, 05:49 Andre Klapper <aklapper(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: On Wed, 2019-05-08 at 22:57 -0700, Pine W wrote: > I am willing to ask WMF Legal for its opinion regarding the use of > Wikimedia Foundation mailing lists for advertising commercial hosting > services, but even if WMF Legal thinks that this is OK in terms of the > letter of the law, I don't think that it's consistent with the intentions > of donors or my understanding of the Wikimedia Foundation brand. Pine, I hope WMF Legal won't care and won't comment. They likely have better things to spend time on than telling a community how they may or may not define the scope of one of the community mailing lists. As a general reminder, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Professional_development_and_consulting exists, is linked from the mediawiki.org frontpage, and welcomes edits (which has already happened in this case). andre

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Referata MediaWiki hosting service dead?
by Amanda Quad 20 May '19

20 May '19

Hey everyone, Does anyone know what happened to the Referata MediaWiki hosting service (http://referata.com) - it seems to have died or something, as no site hosted under Referata's domain name, nor the main "meta" website itself is accessible. CC'ing Yaron Koren who I believe is the lead sysadmin of the service. If we have indeed lost another free MediaWiki host, I will definitely say that it is a major setback and has the potential to impact many poeple. Too many free MediaWiki hosts have either died, had a change of management and are now ad-spammed, and/or have become pay-only services. -- Amanda

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New episode of Between the Brackets: Andre Klapper
by Yaron Koren 15 May '19

15 May '19

Hi, There is a new episode of the MediaWiki podcast "Between the Brackets" - this one is my interview of Andre Klapper, bugwrangler and developer advocate at the Wikimedia Foundation. You can listen to it here: http://betweenthebrackets.libsyn.com/episode-34-andre-klapper -Yaron

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Re: [MediaWiki-l] Introducing: Professional.Wiki
by Jan Steinman 10 May '19

10 May '19

> From: Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> > > The mailing list description says that the permitted types of announcements > are for "new versions, bug fixes, and security issues." Advertising of > commercial services is not included. You do realize that, by making such a fuss, you're providing the new Professional.Wiki and their luminary founders with tonnes of free advertising, right? And you do realize that, by making such a fuss in the very list you're fussing about, you are breaking the very rule you pillory others for breaking? Although I run my own wiki and don't need professional hosting, I know this discussion has improved my impression of the new service. And now, having taken this to the meta-meta level, I'll say no more. :-) (the other) Jan

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Introducing: Professional.Wiki
by Professional.Wiki 09 May '19

09 May '19

Hello everyone, We are happy to announce the launch of our new wiki company: Professional.Wiki <https://professional.wiki/>. Professional.Wiki's mission is to provide customer-focused wiki services that are both holistic and of high quality. Because of our strong involvement in the MediaWiki and Semantic MediaWiki worlds over the last ten years, we can provide a unique set of professional services to companies that have a wiki or want to use one. Our services <https://professional.wiki/en/services>cover all your wiki needs, including wiki hosting <https://professional.wiki/en/hosting>, wiki setup and creation, wiki management, training, advice, professional support and custom development. To celebrate our launch we provide a limited time discount on our hosting plans. Contact us <https://professional.wiki/en/contact>before May 20th, 2019 to get a 20% discount on one of our hosting plans. All our hosting plans <https://professional.wiki/en/hosting>include free professional support and Semantic MediaWiki. Subscribe to our mailing list <http://professional.wiki/en/newsletter>to receive tips and tricks, wiki news and exclusive promotions. Please also follow us on Twitter <https://twitter.com/ProWikiExperts>. We will remain involved in the community, contributing to the software, documentation and discourse. Indeed, we hope to introduce more companies to the wonders of wikis and thus strengthen both the community and software. For more information, please visit our website Professional.Wiki <http://professional.wiki/>or contact us <https://professional.wiki/en/contact>. Karsten and Jeroen -- Professional.Wiki – Jeroen De Dauw & Karsten Hoffmeyer GbR Tieckstraße 24-25, 10115 Berlin +49 (30) 55 87 42 65 info(a)professional.wiki https://professional.wiki/ USt-IdNr. DE322440293

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No images after move a wiki
by herve 09 May '19

09 May '19

Hi, I'm trying to move a mediawiki from a site to another. All is ok except the images. On the destination site, I've done a fresh install, so I'm in 1.32.0. And I put all the extensions by a fresh install. Then I move the medias files with a tar.gz. I put them in the new "images" directory. I put the permission of the group ok for the web server. When I upload an image it's ok. But the images from source are not in the destination bdd table "image". They are in the destination "imagelinks" table, I don't know why. I've done the .../mw-config/index.php. All it's ok. And the images are not on the new wiki. Why ? Thanks for your help, and sorry for my english. -- blog Les dérives de rue <https:drivrsdu.fr>, atelier d'écriture permanent Le Fantastique dictionnaire <https://drivrsdu.fr/dicof/w/index.php/Accueil> Tenez-vous informé par par des informations toutes fausses <https://drivrsdu.fr/toutfaux/start>. Moi sur facebook : Hervé Lloire <https://www.facebook.com/herve.lloire>, moi sur wikipédia : Touam <https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Touam>.

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