MediaWiki-l February 2019

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EMWCon Spring 2019: Call for Presentations
by Cindy Cicalese 12 Feb '19

12 Feb '19

MediaWiki admins, developers, and users: we are excited to bring you EMWCon Spring 2019, the Enterprise MediaWiki Conference [0], April 3-5 in Daly City, CA, just outside San Francisco. The conference will have two days of talks followed by a one day Create Camp. There will be many opportunities to interact with others using and developing MediaWiki. To make the best event possible, we need your help! We are looking for talks that answer any of the following questions: * Who is using MediaWiki? From small communities to large organizations, who are the users? * What is MediaWiki being used for? Are you maintaining documentation? Preserving family history? Collecting best practices? Mapping genes? Mapping natural disasters? * Where is MediaWiki being used? Do you have a multinational user base? Or are you in a large city? Or in a small village with limited network connectivity? * Why is MediaWiki being used? What are the features of MediaWiki that make it useful? * How is MediaWiki being used? Do you have tips and tricks for managing MediaWiki? For building extensions? Do you have favorite or innovative extensions that enhance your wiki? Do you have challenges or solutions for increasing contributions to your wikis? What would help you use MediaWiki more effectively? Please propose a talk on the event page [1] as soon as possible, including a title, a brief description, and your name. If your presentation is accepted, we’ll contact you to get a short abstract of your talk. Presentations will be recorded and made available after the conference. Registration for EMWCon is coming soon. To learn more about previous EMWCon conferences, please see [2]. ---- [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/EMWCon_Spring_2019 [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/EMWCon_Spring_2019#Talks [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/EMWCon If you have any questions please feel free to reach out. Thank you for your interest and I hope to see you in April! Yours, Cindy Cicalese Program Chair, EMWCon Spring 2019

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skin new header and footer
by Greg Rundlett (freephile) 11 Feb '19

11 Feb '19

Short of writing a full skin, is there a recommended way to manipulate and/or replace the standard (Vector) MediaWiki header and footer? What I'm specifically looking to do is manipulate the content at the very top and bottom of the page (aka frame the content), by manipulating the content and position of specific elements found in the body of the output (#main-header and #footer). The main header must have links to other related properties and the footer must have custom disclaimers, copyright lines etc. I'd think a method to do so would be built-in somewhere. The addHTML() <https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/OutputPage_8php_source.…> method of OutputPage <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:OutputPage.php> just adds to what's already in mBodyText so that's not going to work. Similarly, prependHTML() and insertHeadItem() are not exactly suitable. Do I need to write my own method that uses getHTML(), (modify), and setHTML()? Examples? Greg Rundlett https://eQuality-Tech.com https://freephile.org

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Re: [MediaWiki-l] image rebuilding issue - Rich
by Kevin Zhang 06 Feb '19

06 Feb '19

Rich, To rebuild the images, just run rebuildimages.php. Change directory so you are in the maintenance folder. Thanks, Kevin On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 7:00 AM <mediawiki-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send MediaWiki-l mailing list submissions to > mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mediawiki-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mediawiki-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of MediaWiki-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: help importing image into a new wiki (Manuela) > 2. Re: help importing image into a new wiki > (Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000)) > 3. Re: What's the best way to improve performance, with regard > to edit rate (Ariel Glenn WMF) > 4. Re: What's the best way to improve performance, with regard > to edit rate (Brian Wolff) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 10:01:14 -0700 (MST) > From: Manuela <pressephotografin(a)gmail.com> > To: mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] help importing image into a new wiki > Message-ID: <1549386074545-0.post(a)n8.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Rich, > > I don't know why your approach does not work. > > This is what I do: I export the database as sql using pypmyadmin, import it > to the new host and copy the images folder. This has always worked for me > > > Manuela > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://mediawiki-i.429.n8.nabble.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 17:13:25 +0000 > From: "Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000)" <richard.k.evans(a)nasa.gov> > To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list > <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] help importing image into a new wiki > Message-ID: > <DC3FB55EE7FEFD409A6FC1EA00D50D0B0FD456B3(a)NDJSMBX203.ndc.nasa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Unfortunately I'm not exporting the database SQL directly as you are .. > I'm using the exportDump.php maintenance script to get the pages and page > content as an XML file. You're approach works because your database > transfer includes all data in all tables.. my approach is just the page > names and page content as XML imported as new articles. > > I can't (really don't want to) export the database directly as SQL because > it's a very old version of MW 1.17 .. and the new site is MW 1.30. > > The XML export from 1.17 and import to 1.30 went wonderfully well (except > no images).. I have the image folder from the 1.17 site copied in to the > 1.30 site and I just need to figure out how to tell MW to "rebuild the > image pages" from the images folder. > > Anyone? > > /Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: MediaWiki-l [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On > Behalf Of Manuela > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 12:01 PM > To: mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] help importing image into a new wiki > > Hi Rich, > > I don't know why your approach does not work. > > This is what I do: I export the database as sql using pypmyadmin, import > it to the new host and copy the images folder. This has always worked for me > > > Manuela > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://mediawiki-i.429.n8.nabble.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > To unsubscribe, go to: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 10:54:00 +0200 > From: Ariel Glenn WMF <ariel(a)wikimedia.org> > To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list > <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] What's the best way to improve performance, > with regard to edit rate > Message-ID: > < > CALCvg_5c1HVRFNhMivtYHTK5JG6SDJd2mtDFY5Hr6mZCEG50Bw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > It's not split up (sharded) across servers, a least as far as page and > revision tables go. There is one active master at any given time hat > handles all writes; the current host has 160GB of memory and 10 physical > cores (20 with hyperthreading). The actual revision *content* for all > projects is indeed split up across several servers, in an 'external > storage' cluster. The current server configuration is available at > https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=db-eqiad.php > > You can get basic specs as well as load information on these servers by > looking up each one in grafana; here's db1067 (the current enwiki master) > as an example: > > https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000607/cluster-overview?orgId=1&var-data… > > Ariel > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 4:34 PM Hershel Robinson <hershelsr(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I've heard that Wikimedia splits their enwiki database up among more > than > > > one server; is that how they're able to handle several page saves per > > > second on the master? > > > > That is correct. See here > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_servers for more details. > > > > -- > > http://civihosting.com/ > > Simply the best in shared hosting > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > To unsubscribe, go to: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 10:46:03 +0000 > From: Brian Wolff <bawolff(a)gmail.com> > To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list > <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] What's the best way to improve performance, > with regard to edit rate > Message-ID: > <CA+oo+DWr-qEeL= > su2Pbt31XX04LrDmw8A15XnuAHURksXXmVHw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > What is your caching setup (e.g. $wgMainCacheType and friends)? Caching > probably has more of an effect on read time than save time, but it will > also have an effect on save time, probably a significant one. If its just > one server, apcu (i.e. CACHE_ACCEL) is probably the easiest to setup. > > There's a number of factors that can effect page save time. In many cases > it can depend on what the content of your page edits (e.g. If your edits > have lots of embedded images, 404 handling can result in significant > improvements). > > The first step I would suggest would be to do profiling - > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Profiling This will tell you what > part is being slow, and we can give more specific advice based on that > > -- > Brian > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 2:17 PM Star Struck <starstruck7200(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > The server is just the localhost that I use for testing; it's Apache and > > MySQL running on Ubuntu 18.04 on an HP Elite 3.0ghz with 4GB of RAM > > < > > > https://www.amazon.com/HP-Elite-Professional-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B0094… > > >. > > I haven't really figured out what kind of hardware or software I want to > > use for production, because I haven't done a lot of server administration > > (I've typically just used a VPS when I needed webhosting, but perhaps my > > needs now have expanded beyond that, because this is going to be a huge > > wiki, the same scale as Wikipedia; although my main concern at the moment > > is with making page saves, rather than page loads, more efficient, since > I > > don't necessarily anticipate having a lot of visitors from the Internet > > reading the wiki, or else I'd be focusing more on stuff like caching; I > > mostly just want to set up a workable proof-of-concept for the moment.) > > > > I've heard that Wikimedia splits their enwiki database up among more than > > one server; is that how they're able to handle several page saves per > > second on the master? > > > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 8:19 AM Hershel Robinson <hershelsr(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > What's the best way to boost performance ... > > > > > > Depends on a myriad of factors, such as the OS, web server and > > > database and hardware etc. > > > > > > The simplest answer is to increase your hardware resources, meaning if > > > the site has one CPU, give it two. For anything more specific, we > > > would need more details about the server software and hardware. > > > > > > Hershel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > To unsubscribe, go to: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > ------------------------------ > > End of MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 185, Issue 5 > ******************************************* >

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What's the best way to improve performance, with regard to edit rate
by Star Struck 06 Feb '19

06 Feb '19

I have a wiki with a high volume of edits that need to be made (via API), about 2-3 per second. The wiki can't keep up with them; there ends up being a backlog of edits that need to be made as, e.g., attempts are being made by 10 different bots to make 10 edits simultaneously (all to different pages) and it takes a long time for them to save so that the bots can move on to their next edits. What's the best way to boost performance in the ways needed to reduce the time needed to save edits, or to be able to save more edits per second by concurrently running bots? Thanks, -- Starstruck

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help importing image into a new wiki
by Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) 05 Feb '19

05 Feb '19

Hello.. I'm trying to move a wiki from host 1 to host 2 1. I've used the "dumpBackup.php --full" script to get the page content of the old wiki 2. I've used the "ImportDump.php" script to import the pages in the new wiki 3. I've made a .tar archive of the 'images' folder of the old wiki (thumbs and all) 4. I've copied the .tar archive of the images folder to the new wiki (thumbs and all) 5. I've unzipped the .tar archive in the new wiki in the images folder 6. I've run the rebuildall.php script on the new wiki all these steps have completed without error or issue. The new wiki does not see the images. What am I doing wrong? Thanks! /Rich

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Hint on Media Wiki:Common.css
by Manuela 05 Feb '19

05 Feb '19

I would like to have the hint like this site http://de.pluspedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css but I cannot find where to do it. I checked the system messages, but found nothing. Can anyone tell me where to find this message? I suppose it is very simple... Thank you very much Manuela -- Sent from: http://mediawiki-i.429.n8.nabble.com/

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Re: [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 185, Issue 1
by Agustin Coustantin 01 Feb '19

01 Feb '19

Application setup I’m disappointed how after downloading and pay for my app I can’t use or make work On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 6:01 AM <mediawiki-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send MediaWiki-l mailing list submissions to > mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mediawiki-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mediawiki-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of MediaWiki-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Reset password mail wont send (Greg Rundlett (freephile)) > 2. Re: Extension which creates a Wikipage with content (Manuela) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:22:24 -0500 > From: "Greg Rundlett (freephile)" <greg(a)freephile.com> > To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list > <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Reset password mail wont send > Message-ID: > < > CANaytccrhD2JApQhD+932qkUD3vKB+Pk-AQYbUECnzrZFR7dOQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 8:06 PM Bartosz Dziewoński <matma.rex(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > You could temporarily set $wgPasswordReminderResendTime to a lower value > > than 24. > > > > > Thanks Bartosz, > > That is a variable I didn't know about: > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgPasswordReminderResendTime > > I actually used maintenance/CreateAndPromote.php > <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CreateAndPromote.php> to force set > a > new password; and instructed the user to login and change it. > > Note: the user didn't receive any reset emails because the site IP address > was listed on at least one RBL and their email service provider > dropped/blocked the email messages. After a delay, I received the bounce > notifications in my spam folder (using GMail as my service provider). > > ~ Greg > > Greg Rundlett > https://eQuality-Tech.com <https://equality-tech.com/> > https://freephile.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 22:32:35 -0700 (MST) > From: Manuela <pressephotografin(a)gmail.com> > To: mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Extension which creates a Wikipage with > content > Message-ID: <1548999155242-0.post(a)n8.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi altogether, > > thank you for your help so far. I have decided that this problem consumes > too much of my time, so I stopped it for now. I have to get a much better > understanding of the MediaWiki content model. > > My hope was that somebody will tell me: this is really simple, studpid, you > have to do this and that and it will be working. This is obviously not the > case, it seems that a MediaWiki page can only update itself and not other > pages as far as I see. > > Thank you again, > greetings, > > > Manuela > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://mediawiki-i.429.n8.nabble.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > ------------------------------ > > End of MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 185, Issue 1 > ******************************************* >

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