MediaWiki-l March 2010

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Mysql ISAM vs InnoDB
by Jim Hu 05 Dec '11

05 Dec '11

$wgDBtransactions gets set to true if using InnoDB tables. Is there an advantage to using InnoDB tables? The disadvantage is that with MySQL there is a file, ibdata1, that seems to grow endlessly if InnoDB tables are used. See http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=1341 We're wondering if we should just convert everything to MyISAM. Any thoughts? ===================================== Jim Hu Associate Professor Dept. of Biochemistry and Biophysics 2128 TAMU Texas A&M Univ. College Station, TX 77843-2128 979-862-4054

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Custom namespaces and discussion pages
by Snowolf 24 Jan '11

24 Jan '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I've created some custom namespaced on one of my wikis, Botwiki (previously known as pywikipedia). I've put these lines in my LocalSettings.php file: - --- #Custom namespaces $wgExtraNamespaces = array(100 => "Manual", 101 => "Manual talk", 102 => "Python", 103 => "Python talk", 104 => "Php", 105 => "Php talk", 106 => "Perl", 107 => "Perl talk", 108 => "AWB", 109 => "AWB talk", 110 => "IRC", 111 => "IRC talk", 112 => "Other", 113 => "Other talk" ); $wgContentNamespaces[] = 100; $wgContentNamespaces[] = 102; $wgContentNamespaces[] = 104; $wgContentNamespaces[] = 106; $wgContentNamespaces[] = 108; $wgContentNamespaces[] = 110; $wgContentNamespaces[] = 112; - --- However, I have a big problem: when I go to a page in one of these new namespaces (not the discussion, the main ones), for example http://botwiki.sno.cc/wiki/Perl:Copyright_Violation_Bot , I found the red link to the discussion page. It's right, as there is no discussion page for that article. But if you click on it, it brings you to http://botwiki.sno.cc/w/index.php?title=Perl_talk:Copyright_Violation_Bot&a… correct, of course. But have a look of the article and discussion tabs: they are both red! The first, "article", leads to http://botwiki.sno.cc/w/index.php?title=Perl_talk:Copyright_Violation_Bot&a… when it should lead to http://botwiki.sno.cc/wiki/Perl:Copyright_Violation_Bot and the second, "discussion", leads to http://botwiki.sno.cc/w/index.php?title=Talk:Perl_talk:Copyright_Violation_… , when it should lead to http://botwiki.sno.cc/w/index.php?title=Perl_talk:Copyright_Violation_Bot&a… . It's the first time I deal with custom namespaces :-( but I have some ideas of what it can be. Can the problem be with the $wgContentNamespaces settings? So it detects everything as ns0? (don't think so). Or can it be the fact that I haven't used an underscore in the $wgExtraNamespaces definition? Snowolf -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGWhk7sdafW5NQMtERAuX+AKDQ7QLNjXv9cu+ZbSLXidMzgi/vNgCaA7VT +VTgR3iI/BI7FVDqcyRZVJ0= =a4yP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Easy creation of page sequences
by Jean-Marc van Leerdam 28 Jul '10

28 Jul '10

Hi, I have been trying to create a maintainable way of grouping pages together and allowing readers to page through them in sequence. Most samples I've seen use templates that require you to supply the 'previous' and 'next' page. This however results in three page edits to insert a new page between two existing pages and does not guarantee that your prev-sequence is identical to the next-sequence... Being a programmer, that is way too much duplicate and error-prone work for me ;-) There must be a better way to do this and I was hoping to solve it with a plain MW installation (with ParserFunctions and DynamicPageList at the moment). Given an 'index' page that holds a list of all page titles in the preferred order, isn't it possible to create a template that selects the correct previous and next page title given the current page title? I get stuck in getting the correct lines from the index page. DPL can select based on section name (= page title), but then the contents of that index section must be the prev/next links themselves: =First Page= Prev [[Second Page|Next]] =Second Page= [[First Page|Prev]] [[Third Page|Next]] =Third Page= .. etc. This works, except that it is still a lot of duplication of page names (but the edits are contained in a single page, big plus). I hoped to simplify the index page by creating a template that writes the section header and prev/next links, but then DPL no longer recognizes the sections :-( Apparently DPL 'sees' the page text before the templates are called ({{Page|Prev page|Page title|Next page}}: {{Page||First Page|Second Page}} {{Page|First Page|Second Page|Third Page}} {{Page|Second Page|Third Page|Fourth Page}} Basically my questions are: 1. Am I completely off track here? 2. Can DPL be coerced to evaluate templates before looking at the page 3. Can DPL (or another extension) select the text from a section before/after a matched section? 4. Is it possible to determine the section sequence number given the section name (so 'Second Page' results in 2, allowing me to use DPL to retrieve the name of section 2 -/- 1 and 2 + 1 to create the prev/next links? Apologies for the long post, hopefully someone can point me to some good resources (I've been to Meta, Wikibooks, Medawiki.org but could very well have overlooked something there as the amount of info is a bit overwhelming and it is difficult to judge how up to date it is). -- Regards, Jean-Marc

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Please convince me to make my software open source (3)
by Giuseppe Briotti 27 May '10

27 May '10

Hi all, hi Bernard... probably, my response is a bit late, but I spent time reading (hopefully!) carefully all the answers... Thus, my 0,02$: I think that probably the correct question is: "Please convince me to make my business model" :-) I agree with others that probably, the SaaS business models require closed source. Thus, probably, no choice... IMHO the open source software implies a different business model, something similar to "partnership". Good luck, honestly, Giuseppe Briotti. -- Giuseppe Briotti g.briotti(a)gmail.com "Alme Sol, curru nitido diem qui promis et celas aliusque et idem nasceris, possis nihil urbe Roma visere maius." (Orazio)

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Upgrade to 1.15.2 question
by Tolliver 06 Apr '10

06 Apr '10

Hello, Excuse me if my question sounds like a newbie, but I still am; I inherited the Wiki Server some months ago. I am preparing to upgrade MediaWiki 1.11.0 to 1.15.2, and we currently have 30 wiki’s. My understanding is, I can upgrade each wiki individually. Having said that, can I perform the install process of the new version, replace the old wiki’s with the new install individually? Hence not having any databases being affected except for the wiki I upgrade. I trust that this question is in keeping with this forum. Thanks, Graham

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki uses PHP
by Tyler 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

For more information, go to: http://www.humanware.com They have a "products" link. Click that, there's "blindness". There, click "BrailleNote". I have an mPower BT 32 cell.

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki uses PHP
by Svip 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

On 31 March 2010 20:17, Tyler <programmer651(a)comcast.net> wrote: > For more information, go to: > > http://www.humanware.com > They have a "products" link. Click that, there's "blindness". There, click "BrailleNote". I have an mPower BT 32 cell. Hm, I see no mention of PHP either in their brochure. Or a webserver or a MySQL database. So I consider it to be a moot point anyway, as you cannot use MediaWiki locally and if you have a webserver somewhere, it will more than likely support .tar.gz

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki uses PHP
by Boris Steipe 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

Would an online unzip server help? Something like http://wobzip.org/ perhaps; you can point it directly to your source URL. You would still need to save and untar the result though... B. On 31-Mar-10, at 2:17 PM, Tyler wrote: > For more information, go to: > > http://www.humanware.com > They have a "products" link. Click that, there's "blindness". > There, click "BrailleNote". I have an mPower BT 32 cell. > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki uses PHP
by Platonides 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

Tyler wrote: > I have a weird computer in which you can NOT install additional software except that > made by HumanWare, my computer's manufacturer. It's an expensive, rare computer that > only visually impaired people like me know about. It's called a BrailleNote. So... complain to HumanWare? I don't know what kind of software runs there. I first thought that you were running some Windows, in which case you could use binaries that don't need "installation", like the ones on [1] [2]. There are also subversion clients that are "unzip & run". Since you can't install software, are you sure you will be able to run MediaWiki there? You will need at least a php interpreter, and a web server (you could skip the db server if using SQLite backend). It would also be possible to use a php script to ungzip an untar the package. If you can't install software, installing mediawiki may not be too feasible. 1- http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/gzip.htm 2- http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/libarchive.htm

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki uses PHP
by Evelyn Yoder 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

hmmm...I'm stumped. I do understand the need for such manufacturers to lock down their systems, but I would think they could grant some kind of admin-level access so you could setup the software you need. Wish I could help more. -e On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Tyler <programmer651(a)comcast.net> wrote: > I have a weird computer in which you can NOT install additional software > except that made by HumanWare, my computer's manufacturer. It's an > expensive, rare computer that only visually impaired people like me know > about. It's called a BrailleNote. > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l >

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