MediaWiki-l December 2009

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] hidden page
by CW Dillon 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

Bri, There are a few good extensions for doing what [I think] you want to do, but you can actually control permissions like this just by defining custom namespaces and groups in your localsettings.php file. That said, the extensions for this generally give you an easier way to do it. The problems with managing permissions is that it quickly becomes an administrative time-suck. The complexity of figuring out who gets which permissions on which page (or category or namespace) can really make things confusing. Recommend you look at these: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:User_rights_extensions And read up on these: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights Personally, I use this extension, but you'll want to plan some time to work with the author. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GroupPermissionsManager The whole experience with user permission management is fraught with peril, but if you stick to it you'll find many workable solutions. CW > > I have looked, but not found a way to hide a page from non-administrators. > If someone knows how to do this, please explain it or provide a URL to > the mediawiki article. > > Thanks, > Bri > > >

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] hidden page
by Giuseppe Briotti 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

Probably, the best things to do, if you need to stay on one single wiki, is to work at namespace level settings the appropriate permissions on each group of users. As example, you can have two namespace called PUBLIC and SECRET. The content of the first namespace is available to all the people, while the second is available only to a specified group of users. Anyway, as other people stated, you must be carefull when writing your page, because a link to SECRET namespace page from a page of PUBLIC namespace could be a pithfall in your "strategy". G. -- Giuseppe Briotti g.briotti(a)gmail.com "Alme Sol, curru nitido diem qui promis et celas aliusque et idem nasceris, possis nihil urbe Roma visere maius." (Orazio)

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] hidden page
by Jan Steinman 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

I think it's fair to say that the philosophy behind MediaWiki is egalitarian and based upon freely shared information, and that while there are extensions that allow you to do limited page-hiding, the base functionality of MediaWiki does not support it well, and there may be many ways to get around it. > From: Huib Laurens <sterkebak(a)gmail.com> > > Not true, it can be changed. > > Please don't post incorrect answers, they aren't helping. > > huib > > 2009/12/11, nevio carlos de alarc?o <nevinhoalarcao(a)gmail.com>: >> Hi, wiki pages are visible to all. Regards, Nevio >> >> 2009/12/11 Huib Laurens <sterkebak(a)gmail.com> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Could you please explain futher what you mean. >>> >>> A administrator can delete a page, that way its not visible for non >>> admins, or do you mean hidding a namespace ? >>> >>> Huib >>> >>> 2009/12/11, Bri <dev(a)rlyehable.org>: >>>> I have looked, but not found a way to hide a page from >>> non-administrators. >>>> If someone knows how to do this, please explain it or provide a >>>> URL to >>>> the mediawiki article. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bri >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MediaWiki-l mailing list >>>> MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Leave nothing but footprints, take nothing but pictures >>> >>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SterkeBak >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MediaWiki-l mailing list >>> MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> {+}Nevinho >> Venha para o Movimento Colaborativo http://sextapoetica.com.br !! >> _______________________________________________ >> MediaWiki-l mailing list >> MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l >> > > > -- > Leave nothing but footprints, take nothing but pictures > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SterkeBak :::: The Apocalypse has Four Horsemen: climate change, habitat destruction, industrial agriculture, and poverty. Each Horseman holds a whip called Growth in his hand. None can be stopped unless all are stopped. -- David Foley :::: :::: Jan Steinman, Communication Steward, EcoReality <http://www.EcoReality.org > ::::

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problems with dumpBackup.php and importDump.php, also SSI in MW
by Ron Laufer 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

Hi, 1) I'm new to MW and having issues with dumpBackup.php and importDump.php. Both give me the same error: # php maintenance/dumpBackup.php --full X-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.11 Content-type: text/html DB connection error: Access denied for user 'Admin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) (localhost) I do have $wgDBadminuser and $wgDBadminpassword set in AdminSettings.php. I believe they are set correctly, since I can login to the wiki with the same name and password. Any idea what else I might be doing wrong? 2) Is it possible to use SSI in MW without it being stripped out? I've tried commenting out the "removeHTMLcomments" function in Sanitizer.php, but the HTML comment with the SSI in it still doesn't show up when I view source on the wiki display page in my browser. Even if it did, since the page doesn't have an shtml extension, I'm fairly sure it won't work. Has anyone done this and can you talk a n00b through it? Ron -- Ron Laufer

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Skinning category pages
by Anne Wilson 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

During some other discussion thread I made a passing remark that the category pages were not attractive to end-users. Someone, I'm sure, said that it was possible to change the look of category pages - but I can't find the original message. What I'd like to do is to have the category pages have the same appearance as content pages. Could someone kindly point me to suitable reading? Googling hasn't provided an answer so far, but then I probably didn't use the best search terms. Anne -- KDE Community Working Group New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org

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Displaying subpages as basepagename in Category listings
by Jeff Lane 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

I have subpages enabled for some namespaces because we have some documentation sections that benefit from a hierarchical structure. I'd like to change how subpages are displayed in the category listings on category pages so only the subpage base page is used instead of the full page title, and would appreciate any advice. For example, assume I have pages called "Foo" and "Foo/Bar" in category "XYZ". With the default configuration, the pages will show up as "Foo" and "Foo/Bar under "F" on the category page. This confuses users because they're actually looking for "Bar" under B. I know I can use: [[Category:XYZ|{{SUBPAGENAME}}]] so that the page will be indexed by the subpage name, but all that will do is make "Foo/Bar" appear under "B" under on the XYZ category page (it still displays the full page name). What I would like is to have "Foo" appear under "F" on the XYZ category page, and "Bar" under "B". Ideally this would occur site-wide to all subpages, without having to add any special markup to the category definition on the individual pages or the category pages. It's not out the question for us to write an extension. That would be preferable to a source code hack, but I'm open to any suggestions! It would also be helpful if anyone had ideas on how to make [[Category:XYZ|{{SUBPAGENAME}}]] the default for pages, without inserting it on every page or doing a page preload. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Displaying-subpages-as-basepagename-in-Category-listi… Sent from the WikiMedia General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Categories
by Frank Middleton 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:24:05 +0200 Sarel Wessels (Agri Wiki) wrote: > > Hey, > > Let say I have a few articles, some are in category A and B and C, some > in all the categories, some in 2 of them, etc. > > Can I get a list of all the articles in category A and C, in one list? Have you looked at the DPL extension? It can probably do what you want... Cheers -- Frank

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] problems with dumpBackup.php and importDump.php, also SSI in MW
by Ron Laufer 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

OK, disregard question 1, I figured out that the user and password are supposed to be the user and password for MySQL, not the wiki. But question 2 stands... Thanks, Ron -- Ron Laufer From: gonzoron(a)hotmail.com To: mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: problems with dumpBackup.php and importDump.php, also SSI in MW Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:21:38 -0500 Hi, 1) I'm new to MW and having issues with dumpBackup.php and importDump.php. Both give me the same error: # php maintenance/dumpBackup.php --full X-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.11 Content-type: text/html DB connection error: Access denied for user 'Admin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) (localhost) I do have $wgDBadminuser and $wgDBadminpassword set in AdminSettings.php. I believe they are set correctly, since I can login to the wiki with the same name and password. Any idea what else I might be doing wrong? 2) Is it possible to use SSI in MW without it being stripped out? I've tried commenting out the "removeHTMLcomments" function in Sanitizer.php, but the HTML comment with the SSI in it still doesn't show up when I view source on the wiki display page in my browser. Even if it did, since the page doesn't have an shtml extension, I'm fairly sure it won't work. Has anyone done this and can you talk a n00b through it? Ron -- Ron Laufer

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overriding image page
by Tim Cronin 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

Hello all, I have the need to override the default action when clicking an image/file. I would like to have the images show either the image on a blank page or have nothing happen onclick. However, when you click on a PDF, it will begin the download. Currently when clicking a file or image you are first sent to the image page but I would like to completely remove this functionality as there is no reason to show it most times in my installation. I have looked through the hook list at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks and can't find a suitable hook. I have also looked through the source, but can't seem to find a hook that was left out of the hook list. If there is anybody that has done this or knows a good path to follow, I am open to suggestions. Thank you in advance, Tim Cronin

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Welcome to mediawiki-l (weekly posting)
by river＠nightshade.toolserver.org 10 Dec '09

10 Dec '09

Welcome to mediawiki-l. This mailing list exists for discussion and questions about the MediaWiki software[0]. Important MediaWiki-related announcements (such as new versions) are also posted to this list. Other resources. If you only wish to receive announcements, you should subscribe to mediawiki-announce[1] instead. MediaWiki development discussion, and all Wikimedia technical questions, should be directed to the wikitech-l[2] mailing list. Several other MediaWiki-related lists exist: - mediawiki-api[5] for API discussions, - mediawiki-enterprise[6] for discussion of MediaWiki in the enterprise, - mediawiki-cvs[7] for notification of commits to the Subversion repository, - mediawiki-i18n[8] for discussion of MediaWiki internationalisation support, - wikibugs-l[9] for notification of changes to the bug tracker. List administrivia (unsubscribing, list archives). To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit [12]. Archives of previous postings can be found at [3]. This list is also gatewayed to the Gmane NNTP server[4], which you can use to read and post to the list. Posting to the list. Before posting to this list, please read the MediaWiki FAQ[10]. Many common questions are answered here. You may also search the list archives to see if your question has been asked before. Please try to ask your question in a way that enables people to answer you. Provide all relevant details, explain your problem clearly, etc. You may wish to read [13], which explains how to ask questions well. To post to the list, send mail to <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>. This is a public list, so you should not include confidential information in mails you send. When replying to an existing thread, use the "Reply" or "Followup" feature of your mail client, so that clients that understand threading can sort your message properly. When quoting other messages, please use the "inline" quoting style[11], for clarity. When creating a new thread, do not reply to an existing message and change the subject. This will confuse peoples' mail readers, and will result in fewer people reading your mail. Instead, compose a new message for your post. Messages posted to the list have the "Reply-To" header set to the mailing list, which means that by default, replies will go to the entire list. If you are posting a reply which is only interesting to the original poster, and not the list in general, you should change the reply to only go to that person. This avoids cluttering the list with irrelevant traffic. About this message. This message is posted to the list once per week by <river(a)wikimedia.org>. Please contact me if you have any questions or concerns about this mailing. References. [0] http://www.mediawiki.org/ [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce [2] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l [3] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/ [4] http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki [5] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api [6] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-enterprise [7] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-cvs [8] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n [9] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l [10] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FAQ [11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Inline_replying [12] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l [13] http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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