Hi -
I've just restored a mediawiki database from a couple of months ago,
using these instructions:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Database_dump_and_restore_examples
It seems to have worked but for one wierd thing.
One page serves up content as it was a couple of months ago, but
*only* if I'm logged in to mediawiki. If I visit the page without
logging in, I see the latest and greatest as per the page's revision
history.
I've tried deleting cookies and logging in again, but that doesn't
help. I've created a new user and this new user sees the same content
as you see without logging in. It's as if mediawiki has decided that
it's going to show this specific user a specific version of this page.
Any suggestions on what could be happening or how to fix?
Thanks!
L.
Is there a method i can call that given a title, namespace, and
content for a page will create a new article in the db?
i'm aware of the inputbox extension but i am looking for something
that actually creates a new article in the db rather than just
preloading the edit page with a template.
thanks in advance
Just wondering why line breaks are not part of wikitext?
Is there a way to enable them
so that if a user adds a line break in the edit box
it is displayed as a line break when the page is rendered?
thanks
/m
I have not used the kw bread crumbs extension, but WikiDrops may do what
you want:
http://it.extension.org/wiki/WikiDrops
-Jeff
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[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Filip Maljkovic
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Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] kwBreadCrumbs.php
vino tinto wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Anyone who can tell me where to find the "kwBreadCrumbs.php" file?
> Or send it to me?
>
> Regards
> /Vino
>
Meta says
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Barre/Extensions/kw_bread_crumbs
although there seems to be an error occurring nowadays.
Filip
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> > I hope that the universal login does bring with it some kind of
> > universal talk page "you have new messages...somewhere" notice. Most
> > Commons users don't check their Commons talk pages with any regularity
> > and thus don't receive their image warnings, and feel quite slighted
> > when their copyvios/unsourced images are deleted. Any opportunity to
> > reduce that would be welcome.
>
> That isn't in the current plans as far as I know, although it would be
> damn useful. (See
> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/CentralAuth/evil-plans.txt
> for those, to some extent.)
Hm, I will post something at en.wp's VP (Technical) and hopefully
someone will be inspired to make up somethingorother. Or should I make
a rather hopeful bug report? :)
> > Last concern is that Commons really requires uploaders to categorise
> > their images, something that is not so necessary on en.wp. Luckily
> > there are a couple of tools to help with this, perhaps one of these
> > could be worked into the interface somehow. See the recent commons-l
> > archive for links.
>
> A limited list of categories *could* be provided in a drop-down box.
> It wouldn't be feasible to load all categories, for performance
> reasons, but the main ones could be defined in a message somewhere and
> used to build a nice list, as with the licence selector.
I mean categories that describe the content (categories that describe
the license status are included as part of the license templates, of
course), so I don't think this is appropriate. The best way would be
to integrate the CommonSense tool (
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/CommonSense.php ) by
getting people to suggest keywords or something similar.
The thing is, it's actually not always easy to find the most
appropriate image. CommonSense certainly won't do that for you, but it
will provide some potentially useful higher-level categories which you
can use to manually explore to find a good category. Now, training
people to do that is pretty freaking hard any time of the day.
A crap, general category (eg "Clothes", instead of "1920s Womens
Fashion"or whatever) is better than no category at all, though.
Brianna
> Now if I can just create a method to determin if the user exists prior to
> new user creation - detailed in:
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2006-May/011779.html
>
> Thanks again,
> Brian
>
>
You could add the user's ID as a user option on user creation:
$user->setOption('uniqueSSOID',$yourUniqueSSOID);
in function initUser() in the authentication plugin you are using. If you do
that, you can search the database based upon the ID.
I'm not sure if the core code currently has any hooks that would allow you
to rename the user when the user logs in, without reporting errors...
I'm glad you brought this up, because I really didn't think about this, and
this is definitely something I'll run into in the future. I'll have to look
into adding support for this in my plugin.
V/r,
Ryan Lane
What exactly do you mean by really slow?
Do you have an example we can look at?
Arthur
arthur(a)assys.net
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Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Really Slow Browser loads
Does anyone know why I'm getting extremely slow first browser loads..?
This usually only happens the first time I open the site in browser, and
then runs just fine after that..
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated..!
Thanks,
Thomas
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Hi!
Anyone who can tell me where to find the "kwBreadCrumbs.php" file?
Or send it to me?
Regards
/Vino
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(Fwding to Commons list as well)
Hmm... as a Commons admin I find this very interesting. Does it imply
that the universal login is really in sight? We can only hope! :)
I hope that the universal login does bring with it some kind of
universal talk page "you have new messages...somewhere" notice. Most
Commons users don't check their Commons talk pages with any regularity
and thus don't receive their image warnings, and feel quite slighted
when their copyvios/unsourced images are deleted. Any opportunity to
reduce that would be welcome.
I guess I would say that it's a good idea, except it would very
welcome if en.wp (and any other projects that do this) would consider
"donating" a few admins/keen users to help us out on copyvio patrol.
For non-English projects this is especially essential - it is just so
fantastic to have a native speaker around to be able to ask/tell them,
"you deal with this person, please" :)
Also Commons is, I think, a little more stringent in its application
of free image requirements (that is, when we notice).
Last concern is that Commons really requires uploaders to categorise
their images, something that is not so necessary on en.wp. Luckily
there are a couple of tools to help with this, perhaps one of these
could be worked into the interface somehow. See the recent commons-l
archive for links.
Brianna
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 16:05:28 +0100
> From: "Rob Church" <robchur(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] [WikiEN-l] Upload by default to Commons?
> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org>,
> wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org, "MediaWiki announcements and site admin
> list" <mediawiki-l(a)wikimedia.org>
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> [Cross-post to wikien-l, wikitech-l and mediawiki-l; apologies for duplication]
>
> On 03/05/06, Steve Bennett <stevage(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > The "Upload file" link in the left pane of monobook still takes you
> > to the page for uploading an image to the English wikipedia. In most
> > cases, it would be more helpful to be uploading the image to Commons
> > (US fair use being the notable exception).
> >
> > Since I notice that certain other wikipedias at least make a commons
> > upload link equally prominent, is it time we considered removing the
> > upload-to-EN link entirely, or hiding it somewhere for those that
> > really do want to upload fair use images? And instead, provide a link
> > to upload to commons?
>
> Allow me to recall a #mediawiki anecdote from about a week ago. A user
> new to the software wanted to set up about three wikis using a fourth
> as a mini version of our Commons (their own implementation); the
> "usage" side had been established, but the user queried whether or not
> uploads from all wikis could be diverted to the new.
>
> Given that the "slave" wikis would all have access to the "master"
> database (excuse the confusing mix of terminologies for those who are
> placing this into 'SQL context), I considered it wouldn't be too
> difficult.
>
> Now for the relevant bit. It's been discussed before, a little, and I
> touched upon it in a recent discussion sparked off from the newbie's
> questions...but it could be feasible for us to replace our
> Special:Upload pages with something a bit more intelligent. Making use
> of the licencing dropdowns, we could, I think, redirect free images to
> Commons in a seamless fashion (after checking existence and providing
> a courteous note to the user, of course).
>
> This has advantages and disadvantages. The user's upload experience is
> simple, and the image can be used as before without trouble. On the
> other hand, deliberate or accidental mis-selection of the licence
> [cw]ould result in an influx of non-free materials arriving on the
> Commons.
>
> Nevertheless, I think the idea has potential, and it's something I
> might be interested in helping to hack together in the future. I'll
> throw it out here and see what people think. And since I'm at it, I'll
> cross-post to mediawiki-l and wikitech-l, too.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 17:35:14 +0200
> From: Filip Maljkovic <dungodung(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] [WikiEN-l] Upload by default to Commons?
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> <mediawiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org>
> Cc: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org>,
> wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org
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>
> Rob Church wrote:
> > [snip]
> > Now for the relevant bit. It's been discussed before, a little, and I
> > touched upon it in a recent discussion sparked off from the newbie's
> > questions...but it could be feasible for us to replace our
> > Special:Upload pages with something a bit more intelligent. Making use
> > of the licencing dropdowns, we could, I think, redirect free images to
> > Commons in a seamless fashion (after checking existence and providing
> > a courteous note to the user, of course).
> >
> That's a brilliant idea. I'd really like to see it implemented. Not only
> for English Wikipedia, but for all Wikimedia projects.
> > This has advantages and disadvantages. The user's upload experience is
> > simple, and the image can be used as before without trouble. On the
> > other hand, deliberate or accidental mis-selection of the licence
> > [cw]ould result in an influx of non-free materials arriving on the
> > Commons.
> >
> Even though I'm not a Commons expert, I can deduce that Commons too has
> a problem with wrong licenses, hence some of the deletion.
> > [snip]
> Filip
>
> P.S. Sorry for doubleposts... I used Reply to all
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 16:53:22 +0100
> From: "Rob Church" <robchur(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] [WikiEN-l] Upload by default to Commons?
> To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"
> <mediawiki-l(a)wikimedia.org>
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> On 03/05/06, Filip Maljkovic <dungodung(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > That's a brilliant idea. I'd really like to see it implemented. Not only
> > for English Wikipedia, but for all Wikimedia projects.
>
> If it wasn't clear that that was the implication, then I apologise.
>
> > Even though I'm not a Commons expert, I can deduce that Commons too has
> > a problem with wrong licenses, hence some of the deletion.
>
> Yes, but how much extra workload would it produce, and would the
> benefits outweigh the disadvantages?
>
>
> Rob Church
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 17:58:41 +0200
> From: Filip Maljkovic <dungodung(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] [WikiEN-l] Upload by default to Commons?
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> <mediawiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org>
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>
> Rob Church wrote:
> > On 03/05/06, Filip Maljkovic <dungodung(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Even though I'm not a Commons expert, I can deduce that Commons too has
> >> a problem with wrong licenses, hence some of the deletion.
> >>
> >
> > Yes, but how much extra workload would it produce, and would the
> > benefits outweigh the disadvantages?
> I think they would. But that's just my opinion and I can see why you
> have doubts about this. It'd be a step that could have a great impact in
> the future. I'm interested in what others think, though.
>
> Filip
>
>
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