MediaWiki-l November 2006

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Namespaces v Categories
by Tim Ware 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

> Why use namespaces for this? > > It seems to me that namespaces are intended for pages that are > different > in behaviour (i.e., permissions, styles and such), not for differences > in content. > > On my site (http://www.novaroma.org/) I use namespaces for language > switching; the reason for that is that macros like PAGENAME can > be used for inter-language links to the equivalent article. I would like users to be able to search, say, just one novel, or see the pages for one novel. Would it be better to use categories for this? To recap, I'm doing a wiki on an author and it will have different sections for each of the five novels. I'm very open to suggestions. Thanks. Tim > Thanks, This was all very clear. Now that I've created the namespace > "ATD", I assume I can go to pages named, say, "ATD_-_A" and move/ > rename them to "ATD:A" which will put that page in the namespace ATD, > yes? I did this, but the title of the page now shows "ATD:A", that > is, it shows the namespace and the page name. Is there a way not to > show the namespace in the main header? > > Also, I created a namespace "Jack" and made it not searchable, in > LocalSettings.php, but when I search for a file called "create" which > I had created in the main namespace but moved to "Tim:create", it > still turns up in the search even though I made searching that > namespace "false". Maybe I have to quit the browser or something? > > > In a message dated 11/5/2006 11:42:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > tim(a)hyperarts.com writes: > > > > If someone could point me to what the additions would be in > > LocalSettings.php, that'd be great. > > Was this page not helpful? Or perhaps you didn't find it yet > > _http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Custom_namespaces_ > > (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Custom_namespaces) > > > > > > > > ... > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > -- hucke(a)cynico.net - http://www.graveyards.com -"Apes don't read philosophy." -"Yes they do, Otto, they just don't understand it! Let me correct you on a few things: Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself'. And the London Underground is not a political movement! Those are all mistakes. I looked them up." -from "A Fish Called Wanda" _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l Download this as a file

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Namespaces v Categories
by Tim Ware 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

Thanks, This was all very clear. Now that I've created the namespace "ATD", I assume I can go to pages named, say, "ATD_-_A" and move/ rename them to "ATD:A" which will put that page in the namespace ATD, yes? I did this, but the title of the page now shows "ATD:A", that is, it shows the namespace and the page name. Is there a way not to show the namespace in the main header? Also, I created a namespace "Jack" and made it not searchable, in LocalSettings.php, but when I search for a file called "create" which I had created in the main namespace but moved to "Tim:create", it still turns up in the search even though I made searching that namespace "false". Maybe I have to quit the browser or something? > In a message dated 11/5/2006 11:42:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > tim(a)hyperarts.com writes: > > If someone could point me to what the additions would be in > LocalSettings.php, that'd be great. > Was this page not helpful? Or perhaps you didn't find it yet > _http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Custom_namespaces_ > (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Custom_namespaces) > > > > ...

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Namespaces v Categories
by CoyoteTrexl＠aol.com 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

In a message dated 11/5/2006 11:42:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, tim(a)hyperarts.com writes: If someone could point me to what the additions would be in LocalSettings.php, that'd be great. Was this page not helpful? Or perhaps you didn't find it yet _http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Custom_namespaces_ (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Custom_namespaces) ... Finally, if I've created a discussion namespace for a novel and I want to add a discussion link after one particular entry on an alphabetical listing page, what is the syntax for this? Thanks. Tim Create a template with the following content and name it "Template:Discuss" (or "Template:YourTemplateName") [[{{NAMESPACE}}_talk:{{PAGENAME}}| Discuss]] Any where you want a link to a discussion page related to a main page, just use {{discuss}} to call the template content. This will perform the same as the "Discussion" tab at the top of pages; it will print "Discuss" (or whatever you put after the pipe) and create link to that page's talk page. If you want to link page A to page B's discussion page, that would be a different matter. A simple wikilink on page A to page B's talk page would work: [[Page_B:talk|Discuss]]. If you want to expedite adding links to the page B discussion page, you could make a template page named, for example, "Template:DiscussB." Put the [[Page_B:talk|Discuss]] wikilink on the page "Temlate:DiscussB" and call it anywhere on your site with {{DiscussB}}.

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Namespaces v Categories
by Tim Ware 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

I am building a wiki for an author and will have alphabetical guides to 4 of his novels. I have read about namespaces and categories and wonder what is the best way to do this. It appears that creating a namespace for each novel would be the way to go. I understand that I'll have to add them in the LocalSettings.php file. I understand that I can use numbers 100+ in the array of new namespaces, and that even numbers are for regular pages and odd numbers are for discussion pages. Then, to create the alpha page "A" for the novel "GR" the link would be: [[GR:A|Gertrude's Dilemma - A]] (that's a pipe after the A) If someone could point me to what the additions would be in LocalSettings.php, that'd be great. I understand that the default search would search all 4 novel's namespaces. Also, registered users would be able to edit pages in any of the 4 namespaces. I already created an A-Z menu of links, eg GR_-_A, GR_-_B, etc. I assume that after I've added the namespaces in LocalSettings.php, I can move/rename these pages to GR:A, GR:B, etc., yes? Finally, if I've created a discussion namespace for a novel and I want to add a discussion link after one particular entry on an alphabetical listing page, what is the syntax for this? Thanks. Tim ......................................................... ! ............ ..................................................... Tim Ware .. HyperArts .. 201 - 4th Street Ste 404 .. Oakland CA 94607 t: (510) 339-6084 .. f: (510) 339-6086 .. e: tim(a)hyperarts.com http://www.hyperarts.com

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Page Permissions
by CoyoteTrexl＠aol.com 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

In a message dated 11/4/2006 6:30:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, sam(a)bluwiki.org writes: Everyone, I'm looking to allow users to customize permissions for wiki pages that they have created. Anyone have any experience in this area? I was thinking of designing a special page that looked something like this: http://www.bluwiki.org/go/Special:Permissions Thanks, -s Again, GroupWiki provides this functionality. The persistent call for more user control over web sites using mediawiki might eventually override the preference of the leadership of Mediawiki's currently largest user that routine access control not be available to users. http://sourceforge.net/projects/groupwiki

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Page read protect form non SysOps
by CoyoteTrexl＠aol.com 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

Hello, Is there a way to prevent only a specific page from read by all users (registered + guests) ? Perhaps only SysOps can read this specific page or even a specific user can read this specific page ? Regards, Addady _______________________________________________ GroupWiki, a modified version of MediaWiki, allows restricted access to pages. http://sourceforge.net/projects/groupwiki

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] no p-tb section in main.css
by Tim Ware 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

> Thank you Tim, I will try that, but I'm pretty sure I removed the > entire > margin line and it didn't make a bit of difference. IE70Fixes.css has this rule: #column-content #content { margin-left: 12.2em; margin-top: 3em; height: 1%; } but I'm quite sure your solution is in the browser-specific CSS. Tim

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] no p-tb section in main.css
by Tim Ware 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

> Thank you Tim, I will try that, but I'm pretty sure I removed the > entire > margin line and it didn't make a bit of difference. I did it using Firefox on Mac, so if it's not making a difference for you, then that rule is overwritten in one of the browser-specific style sheets, so you have to edit whichever it is, depending on your browser: IE50Fixes.css IE55Fixes.css IE70Fixes.css IEMacFixes.css KHTMLFixes.css Opera6Fixes.css Opera7Fixes.css Tim

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] no p-tb section in main.css
by Tim Ware 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

> I deleted everything in MonoBook.php > from: > > <div id="column-one"> > to: > > </div> > > which seems to me, is the entire div, but the main section still > won't shift > left. The 100% tip didn't work unfortunately, or maybe I applied it > wrong (I > added it to #content). In skins > monobook > main.css This rule: #content { margin: 3em 0 0 12.2em; padding: 0 1em 1.5em 1em; background: white; color: #8c594a; border: 1px solid #8c594a; line-height: 1.5em; position: relative; z-index: 2; width:600px; } sets the left margin for the content box. If you diminish the "12.2em" left margin, that content box will move over to the left. Tim

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no p-tb section in main.css
by Arjen Verweij 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

Hi, I am customizing the monobook so I can integrate it into an Intranet scenery, and while stripping away the parts of "column-one", I had a bit of trouble removing the toolbox. All the other components are easy to wipe out with display: none, but in main.css there is only a #p-tbx section. Just out of curiosity, why is this? Manually adding #p-tb {display:none;} helps btw (found it in a 2005 posting). Also, after stripping a lot of stuff relating to column-one, the "main section" doesn't shift left. I tried removing all of the php code to see if display: none was to blame, but this didn't help either. Can anyone point me to where this is set (for IE 6). Regards, Arjen

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