Can we go back to this, please, and approve the Georgian Wikisource? It's huge, probably the largest in the multilingual Wikisource. It's strange to keep a language with so many pages on the multilingual site. And there are waves of activity, too. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ ‫בתאריך שבת, 26 במרץ 2022 ב-6:42 מאת ‪MF-Warburg‬‏ <‪ mfwarburg@googlemail.com‬‏>:‬ > No, it doesn't fulfill the activity requirements currently. Approving > makes no sense if there is no community who wants to do the "upkeep" on a > separate wiki, when the content is perfectly accessible (without prefixes) > on the multilingual Wikisource. > > I would be interested to hear from the users who contributed this year > and what they think, though. Have they already been contacted? > > I only see that the user who made the most contributions (but is now > inactive) has been contacted some years ago by Steven, but it seems like > there was no response (< > https://wikisource.org/wiki/User_talk:Giakosh#Question%3A_Are_you_intereste… > >). > > Amir E. Aharoni &lt;amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il&gt; schrieb am Do., 24. > März 2022, 20:00: > >> Hi! >> >> Can we perhaps approve Georgian Wikisource already? :) >> >> It has LOTS of pages in the Multilingual Wikisource, and recently, >> they were recategorized. >> >> https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/?title=Georgian&cat=1&wiki=s… >> >> I can't think of a reason to keep it there. >> >> -- >> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי >> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >> ‪“We're living in pieces, >> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list -- langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list -- langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org > _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org

I totally agree as well. Let's move this forward. On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 6:36 AM Amir E. Aharoni < amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il&gt; wrote: > Can we go back to this, please, and approve the Georgian Wikisource? > It's huge, probably the largest in the multilingual Wikisource. It's > strange to keep a language with so many pages on the multilingual site. And > there are waves of activity, too. > > -- > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > ‪“We're living in pieces, > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ > > > ‫בתאריך שבת, 26 במרץ 2022 ב-6:42 מאת ‪MF-Warburg‬‏ <‪ > mfwarburg@googlemail.com‬‏>:‬ > >> No, it doesn't fulfill the activity requirements currently. Approving >> makes no sense if there is no community who wants to do the "upkeep" on a >> separate wiki, when the content is perfectly accessible (without prefixes) >> on the multilingual Wikisource. >> >> I would be interested to hear from the users who contributed this >> year and what they think, though. Have they already been contacted? >> >> I only see that the user who made the most contributions (but is now >> inactive) has been contacted some years ago by Steven, but it seems like >> there was no response (< >> https://wikisource.org/wiki/User_talk:Giakosh#Question%3A_Are_you_intereste… >> >). >> >> Amir E. Aharoni &lt;amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il&gt; schrieb am Do., 24. >> März 2022, 20:00: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Can we perhaps approve Georgian Wikisource already? :) >>> >>> It has LOTS of pages in the Multilingual Wikisource, and recently, >>> they were recategorized. >>> >>> https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/?title=Georgian&cat=1&wiki=s… >>> >>> I can't think of a reason to keep it there. >>> >>> -- >>> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי >>> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >>> ‪“We're living in pieces, >>> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Langcom mailing list -- langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list -- langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list -- langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org > _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org

I agree with the arguments being made in favor of having a different criteria for Wikisource and we should create a separate Wikisource for Georgian as per what Amir says. I think the Georgian community should be able to take ownership of the project and satisfy the criteria mentioned by Amir. Best Satdeep On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 16:55, Amir E. Aharoni &lt;amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il&gt; wrote: > I agree with Nicolas and Nataliia. They aren't Langcom members, but > their opinion is sensible and well-explained. In Wikisource, > stability is not less important than continuous activity. > > (In Wikinews, each article is supposed to freeze after a short time, > but the activity is supposed to be otherwise continuous, unlike in > Wikisource, which may become complete in some languages at some > point. Whether it actually works in the current editions of Wikinews > is a separate discussion.) > > So I'd say that for practical purposes, if there is a lot of content > , and the community is good enough at preventing vandalism to it, > that's enough for Wikisource. The current Georgian Wikisource > satisfies both criteria: as far as I can see, it has many more pages > than any other language in wikisource.org [1], and they aren't being > vandalized. > > בתאריך יום ו׳, 4 באוג׳ 2023, 14:12, מאת Nataliia > Tymkiv ‏&lt;ntymkiv(a)wikimedia.org&gt;rg>: > > True, that community activities are important, and I think that it > is important to approve all other projects. But Wikisource is a very > different project, where the value would be even in its passive > existence. When there are text available in that language -- and > there are already a few of them -- the chances of a community being > drawn to it are bigger. But in any case value for readers is really > big. Maybe the rules should be different for Wikisource because of > its different nature (no original text, basically)? > > Best regards, > antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv > Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees > > _NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal > working hours/days, as I usually can work more as a volunteer during > weekend. You should not feel obligated to answer it during your days > off. Thank you in advance!_ > > On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:19 AM Sotiale Wiki > &lt;sotiale.wm(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > I am negative for approval. Whether a community is sustainable is > very important, and this has been a consistent criterion. > Of course, it may be a separate issue that this takes into account > the nature of the Wikisource project, but at least for now, no > argument has been made that it should be taken into account. > > If it's just because there are a lot of pages, we should approve all > of them if they've been contributing continuously for a long time > from a small number of users. Or even if there are no such users. > Betawikiversity has a Vietnamese language project with 3211 pages, > which also needs to be approved according to the same criteria. But > no one is running this project right now. I don't think it's > appropriate for this wikiversity incubating project to have an > independent domain. And the Georgian Wikisource also seems to be in > a situation that is not very different when looking at recent > activities. > > I haven't found a good reason to change these acceptance criteria or > consistency. If this is approved, there must be a convincing > explanation for the approval of the project despite questioning the > sustainability of the community. Otherwise, we face demands from > numerous projects to be individual and to recognize exceptions. > > Sotiale > > 2023년 8월 4일 (금) 오후 3:38, Tochi Precious > &lt;tochiprecious2(a)gmail.xn--com&gt;-4f21ay07k 작성: > > I totally agree as well. > Let's move this forward. > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 6:36 AM Amir E. Aharoni > &lt;amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il&gt; wrote: > > Can we go back to this, please, and approve the Georgian Wikisource? > It's huge, probably the largest in the multilingual Wikisource. It's > strange to keep a language with so many pages on the multilingual > site. And there are waves of activity, too. > > -- > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע > אַהֲרוֹנִי > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > ‪“We're living in pieces, > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ > > ‫בתאריך שבת, 26 במרץ 2022 ב-6:42 מאת > ‪MF-Warburg‬‏ <‪mfwarburg@googlemail.com‬‏>:‬ > > No, it doesn't fulfill the activity requirements currently. > Approving makes no sense if there is no community who wants to do > the "upkeep" on a separate wiki, when the content is perfectly > accessible (without prefixes) on the multilingual Wikisource. > > I would be interested to hear from the users who contributed this > year and what they think, though. Have they already been contacted? > > I only see that the user who made the most contributions (but is now > inactive) has been contacted some years ago by Steven, but it seems > like there was no response > (<

). > > Amir E. Aharoni &lt;amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il&gt; schrieb am Do., 24. > März 2022, 20:00: > > Hi! > > Can we perhaps approve Georgian Wikisource already? :) > > It has LOTS of pages in the Multilingual Wikisource, and recently, > they were recategorized. >

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