I agree with Nicolas and Nataliia. They aren't Langcom members, but their opinion is sensible and well-explained. In Wikisource, stability is not less important than continuous activity.

(In Wikinews, each article is supposed to freeze after a short time, but the activity is supposed to be otherwise continuous, unlike in Wikisource, which may become complete in some languages at some point. Whether it actually works in the current editions of Wikinews is a separate discussion.)

So I'd say that for practical purposes, if there is a lot of content , and the community is good enough at preventing vandalism to it, that's enough for Wikisource. The current Georgian Wikisource satisfies both criteria: as far as I can see, it has many more pages than any other language in wikisource.org, and they aren't being vandalized.

בתאריך יום ו׳, 4 באוג׳ 2023, 14:12, מאת Nataliia Tymkiv ‏<ntymkiv@wikimedia.org>:
True, that community activities are important, and I think that it is important to approve all other projects. But Wikisource is a very different project, where the value would be even in its passive existence. When there are text available in that language -- and there are already a few of them -- the chances of a community being drawn to it are bigger. But in any case value for readers is really big. Maybe the rules should be different for Wikisource because of its different nature (no original text, basically)?

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On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:19 AM Sotiale Wiki <sotiale.wm@gmail.com> wrote:
I am negative for approval. Whether a community is sustainable is very important, and this has been a consistent criterion.
Of course, it may be a separate issue that this takes into account the nature of the Wikisource project, but at least for now, no argument has been made that it should be taken into account.

If it's just because there are a lot of pages, we should approve all of them if they've been contributing continuously for a long time from a small number of users. Or even if there are no such users.
Betawikiversity has a Vietnamese language project with 3211 pages, which also needs to be approved according to the same criteria. But no one is running this project right now. I don't think it's appropriate for this wikiversity incubating project to have an independent domain. And the Georgian Wikisource also seems to be in a situation that is not very different when looking at recent activities.

I haven't found a good reason to change these acceptance criteria or consistency. If this is approved, there must be a convincing explanation for the approval of the project despite questioning the sustainability of the community. Otherwise, we face demands from numerous projects to be individual and to recognize exceptions.

Sotiale

2023년 8월 4일 (금) 오후 3:38, Tochi Precious <tochiprecious2@gmail.com>님이 작성:
I totally agree as well.
Let's move this forward.

On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 6:36 AM Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
Can we go back to this, please, and approve the Georgian Wikisource? It's huge, probably the largest in the multilingual Wikisource. It's strange to keep a language with so many pages on the multilingual site. And there are waves of activity, too.

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‫בתאריך שבת, 26 במרץ 2022 ב-6:42 מאת ‪MF-Warburg‬‏ <‪mfwarburg@googlemail.com‬‏>:‬
No, it doesn't fulfill the activity requirements currently. Approving makes no sense if there is no community who wants to do the "upkeep" on a separate wiki, when the content is perfectly accessible (without prefixes) on the multilingual Wikisource.

I would be interested to hear from the users who contributed this year and what they think, though. Have they already been contacted?

I only see that the user who made the most contributions (but is now inactive) has been contacted some years ago by Steven, but it seems like there was no response (<https://wikisource.org/wiki/User_talk:Giakosh#Question%3A_Are_you_interested_in_trying_to_get_a_separate_subdomain_for_Georgian_Wikisource%3F>).

Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> schrieb am Do., 24. März 2022, 20:00:
Hi!

Can we perhaps approve Georgian Wikisource already? :)

It has LOTS of pages in the Multilingual Wikisource, and recently, they were recategorized.

I can't think of a reason to keep it there.

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