Dear Language committee members,
Hi all.
I would like to ask for comments on the approval of *Wp/dtp*. It has been
active since Mar 2023, and it has been 6 months that 3 or more editors have
been active[1]. There are about 2037 pages including templates.
Most important core messages have already been translated(99.65%)[2]. The
request has already been submitted[3].
Its current proposal is *Dusun*, but I think it should be changed to *Central
Dusun*. This is also the language name they use on incubatorwiki.
I would like to ask for your opinion on the approval of this, thank you for
your consideration.
[1]
https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/dtp&wiki=in…
[2] https://codelookup.toolforge.org/dtp
[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Dusun
Kind regards,
Sotiale
Dear Maryana,
During our last meeting, we promised to get back to you and explain further
developments regarding the Montenegrin issue. We did not manage to get any
new answers, explanations, or closure regarding this topic hence my update
about the status of the Montenegrin community (which is a part of our CEE
region) will be just another try to chronologically explain this issue and
hopefully raise the attention to the importance of the way we are
communicating and dealing with Wikimedia communities in general.
Hereby I want to share with you a *document
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CO_qoe29WVJCOIsdaIgL0QxDP62SVW2VNqWnJcB…>*which
was prepared by one Montenegrin volunteer, where she explains in detail the
past and current situation of the project, all actions that took place and
reactions (and the lack of reactions) which were received.
CEE Hub became aware of this issue in April 2023 and since then, on behalf
of the CEE hub I have tried to get some clarifications. I contacted Langcom
(in writing, via emails) and I reached out to Langcom liaisons too. I tried
to explain the importance of dealing with this topic because all our
communities are important, and transparency is one of our core values.
Also, on the LangCom’s Meta page
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee> there is a very useful
information and explanation about transparency where communities are
invited to reach out and interact with Langcom:
‘Transparency *edit
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Language_committee&veaction=ed…>*
* | **edit source
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Language_committee§ion=4&v…>*
· The whole set of activities of the language committee is *public*,
and any advice from the community is welcome.
· The committee values the fact that projects are a property of the
single editors who make it and considers users' necessities as the primary
source for policy.
· The committee is especially interested in hearing those who
proposed a new wiki in the past and got either refused or approved.’
Today in this email, I am not writing anything new. I am just repeating
what I already explained when reaching out to Langcom before.
I truly believe that within the Wikimedia movement we have sufficient
resources to adequately deal with topics such as this one and that every WM
community deserves to receive our clear and transparent feedback. I hope
that we can do something together to move this topic forward.
I am offering CEE Hub's assistance and support with whatever we can do.
Best wishes,
Barbara Klen
*CEE HUB Coordinator*
Tel. +385 91 1504 413
Web. www.wmceehub.org
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Von: Ami Keu <amitumi1234amitumi1234(a)gmail.com>
Date: Mi., 14. Juni 2023 um 23:21 Uhr
Subject: Fwd: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions
To: <langcom-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
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From: Ami Keu <amitumi1234amitumi1234(a)gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 June, 2023 at 10:05 PM
Subject: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions
To: jhsoby(a)wikimedia.no <jhsoby(a)wikimedia.no>
Hi Jon,
I don't know if this is the correct email to write this.
Thank you for initiating approval for Sylheti Wikipedia
https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/langcom@lists.wikimedia.org/thr…
I would like to point out one thing. Langcom should be aware that Sylheti
wikipedia uses sylheti nagri script. And not many sylheti people can
actually read or write this script. Most sylheti uses Bengali alphabet to
write sylheti (also see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sylhetis#Sylheti_nagri_script )
I can see there is a discussion about this on sylheti wikipedia:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/syl/ꠝꠥꠟ_ꠚꠣꠔꠣ#আমার_সামান্য_এক_প…
where a sylheti pointed out that there is an organization did a survey and
found out only 12-25 thousands people can actually write or read this
script.
There are c. 10.3 millions sylheti, which means sylheti wikipedia will be
un-accessible for vast majority of sylheti.
There is also pointed out that possible solutions would be lang converter
like some wiki has. I would request langcom to create or ask developer to
create a lang converter for sylheti wikipedia. Mapping already exists, see
https://github.com/mayeenulislam/nagri-bangla
Thank you.