I hereby propose approval of Mon Wikipedia. It meets all approval requirements, though as first project in the language, it will require language verification for approval. Because we're getting in near the holidays, I'm going to leave this open both here and Meta through December 31, to make sure everyone gets a chance to look.
Steven
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Having heard nothing further from MF-W's linguist, I am marking Western Armenian Wikipedia as approved.
Steven
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 17:24:02 +0000
From: Michael Everson <everson(a)evertype.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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Subject: Re: [Langcom] Provisionally approved projects still awaiting
language verification
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On 17 Dec 2018, at 23:39, Steven White <Koala19890(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
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> • Western Armenian Wikipedia: MF-W: Did you ever hear from the linguist you contacted? This has been awaiting language verification since August, and Wikimedia Armenia says it's satisfied. So I think if you haven't heard from your linguist by this weekend, we should just approve.
I agree.
M
1. Western Armenian Wikipedia: MF-W: Did you ever hear from the linguist you contacted? This has been awaiting language verification since August, and Wikimedia Armenia says it's satisfied. So I think if you haven't heard from your linguist by this weekend, we should just approve.
2. Saraiki Wikipedia: I sent possible contacts for language verification to the Committee on November 15. Has anyone tried to contact one of those people?
3. Tacawit Wiktionary
4. Guianan Creole Wikipedia
I'd love to get at least two of these done by the end of the year. Thanks in advance.
Steven
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I am proposing approval of the Guianan Creole Wikipedia<https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/gcr>. It has ticked off all the boxes it needs to tick off: active community, interface translation, reasonable number of pages.
The one potential problem with this test is that the ratio of articles to stubs is low. (That is, it has a lot of stubs, compared to quality articles.) The reason for this is that the small, but enthusiastic, team working on the test project kept wanting some guidance from LangCom as to how much content was needed in order to get an approval. By design, we don't really have a specific standard for that. In the absence of that guidance, the team kept creating short pages; it took me a long time to convince them to stop, and to focus on filling out complete pages instead.
They have now started to do that, and have a core of pages in areas of specific interest to the community of Guiane that are filled out and up to quality standards. They are continuing to work on that. But enough stubs were created early in the game that from a ratio perspective, it would take the team a long time to get to what we'd ordinarily prefer to see. Now, I have been working with this team regularly for a long while—probably at least two years. They feel they have worked hard, but they are getting anxious. I firmly believe that if this test is approved, the team will continue to work on the project, and will be able to recruit additional contributors. I am concerned that if we say no—particularly if I am not able to give specific guidance on how many "complete" pages are enough—they are going to give up and walk away.
Let me add: the stubs are not junk. They're just stubs. The team has worked hard to do the right thing all along, and their focus is in a good place now. Thank you for your consideration.
Steven
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No worries. There will be no final approval until that happens.
Steven
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:46:39 +0200
From: "Amir E. Aharoni" <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il>
The activity definitely looks good, so I'm not opposed to approving it, but
more than ever I'd like to hear an expert's approval. It's the usual
practice, but I had particular difficulty finding any information online
about this language.
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Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
Fair enough. How about this: if you've heard from this linguist within a week of your email (so next Monday, 16:30 UTC), then we'll wait until you get a definitive answer from him/her. If you haven't even received a response by then, we'll go ahead and approve on Wikimedia Armenia's say-so.
Steven
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Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:33:06 +0100
From: MF-Warburg <mfwarburg(a)googlemail.com>
Hello. During the weekend I contacted a new linguist. I would prefer to
wait a few days for his possible response.
Azniv Stepanian, who is the project leader of the Western Armenian project at Wikimedia Armenia, has reported to me that in his view the language is fine. Is that sufficient proof for the Committee to push the project to final approval?
Steven White
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