Hi,
Maybe it's finally time to make clear different rules for Wikisource ?
Wikisource is very unique in its dynamic. It doesn't need a big community.
It's the only Wikimedia projects where a page can be finished and never
touched again (it's also a bit true for Wikinews tho) and for some
languages, the whole project may be finished some day : for example in
Breton, in 13 years, with a community of at most 5 people we did around a
third of all the books. Since ~100 books are published every year in
Breton, we may see the day where we finished it (and thus, there will be no
activity).
And even the biggest Wikisources still have a small community (for
comparison, 338 active users for the English Wikisource) who still produce
more content than Wikipedia with communities 10 or 100 times bigger (again
for comparison, English Wikisource has half a million texts and 4 millions
pages). I don't have the stats but I guess that most Wikisources are under
5 active users a month and that's a lot, meanwhile a Wikipedia with less
than 100 active users is still too small (Breton Wikipedia has a bit less
than 100 active users and it's barely enough).
That's why there always have been more leniency when it came to approve a
new Wikisource That's never been written down (unlike ancient or historical
languages that are explicitly allowed on Wikisource only), maybe it should?
Cheers,
Nicolas
Le ven. 4 août 2023 à 09:19, Sotiale Wiki <sotiale.wm(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
I am negative for approval. Whether a community is
sustainable is very
important, and this has been a consistent criterion.
Of course, it may be a separate issue that this takes into account the
nature of the Wikisource project, but at least for now, no argument has
been made that it should be taken into account.
If it's just because there are a lot of pages, we should approve all of
them if they've been contributing continuously for a long time from a small
number of users. Or even if there are no such users.
Betawikiversity has a Vietnamese language project with 3211 pages, which
also needs to be approved according to the same criteria. But no one is
running this project right now. I don't think it's appropriate for this
wikiversity incubating project to have an independent domain. And the
Georgian Wikisource also seems to be in a situation that is not very
different when looking at recent activities.
I haven't found a good reason to change these acceptance criteria or
consistency. If this is approved, there must be a convincing explanation
for the approval of the project despite questioning the sustainability of
the community. Otherwise, we face demands from numerous projects to be
individual and to recognize exceptions.
Sotiale