Hi Srikanth, I did a cursory search to list all concrete roads in India,
and came up with some interesting results. There definitely seem to be
reputable media reports that state the claim, i.e. there are concrete
roads all over the country. Unfortunately, there seems to be no
comprehensive list, which would mean that for each individual road or
highway one is writing about, a distinct citation has to be found. The
other way around this is to perhaps write to (or file an RTI request
with) the Director General (Roads), Ministry of Shipping, Road Transport
and Highways, Government of India - they must have this information. You
could then host the scanned reply on Scribd, Webcitation or some other
place that allows for non-freely-licensed but public information, and
link to that as a citation.
Speaking of which, there might be other things which merit an RTI
response to use as a citation. Since government extends copyright over
its communication, I doubt that RTI replies can go on Wikimedia Commons.
Commercial and non-commercial hosts (the Internet Archive, Scribd, etc.)
might be one solution. But perhaps the chapter - especially as it is not
a 'Wikimedia' site - can step in and create a way to host such
documents, that fall out of the purview of Commons because of licensing,
but are nevertheless required for a citation, and are not online. If you
think this is worth it...
Cheers,
Achal
On Sunday 11 September 2011 03:30 PM, Gautam John wrote:
Srikanth - if I can enlarge the scope of this
problem:
1. Wikipedia has errors
2. These errors are because of the sources cited
3. The sources cited are factually wrong
4. There are no sources online to offer a counter or have a limitation
of copyright.
Does that some it up?
Assuming there are pictures that hold a differing view, why can't
those be linked to to get around the issue of copyright? Similarly, if
there are articles online, why can't they be linked to?
Of course, if there are no references online, then we do have a
problem but has that ever been the case? Where there are *no*
references online?
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam
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On 11 September 2011 14:52, Srikanth Ramakrishnan<rsrikanth05(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
I have had this problem for over two years and I belive that this
problem is unseen in most cases and will remain so untill addressed.
There are many cases where incorrect facts are shown with references.
This is purely due to lack of sources. I noticed this back in 2009
when I found that according to all available sources, the only
concrete trunk road in India is the Mumbai Pune Expressway. This I
know is not true. The East Coast Arm of the Golden Quadrilateral has a
few concrete sections, confirmed with photographs on the websites of
the National Highways Authority of India and the Nagarjuna
Construction Company. Apart from this, I personally have seen that the
Hubli Belgaum Toll Road Private Limited, Pune Satara Toll Road are
also made of concrete. Now since I couldn't use these pictures as
sources, mainly due to copyright issues and that I wasn't into
photographs at that time, I ignored it. Recently I thought I could try
and use the Oral Citations on this little issue and see, but after a
chat with Achal yesterday I dropped the idea as it would need to be
authoritative or in short I'd need a government official to talk. This
as I've experienced earlier, isn't an easy task. Therefore, I place a
request here for people to suggest something, as this problem is
rising unchecked ...
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Regards,
ME.
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