On Nov 12, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Bala Jeyaraman wrote:
>Many of us
went through college recently know its not *Some*, its *Most*. Anything called assignment
and graded will be copy-pasted even by the brightest 5% of students in class who would
have potential to do on their own.
+1. with Srikanth This is the SINGLE MOST important thing to remember for the future.
Lets cut the political correctness and putting the blame everywhere else than where it
belongs - the students and faculty involved
My view is not driven by political correctness but I do want to avoid generalising all
students and all faculty. Just take a look a the user talk and article discussion pages
and it's immediately apparent that quite a few students and teachers wouldn't
deserve blame. Many students did make mistakes - but they made the same mistakes that
many newbies.
So here is what is to be done:
1) Keep the number low -
Agree and we need to work on how we select the colleges and faculty and classes and
students.
2) Penalise those who copy paste
This is something that can (and should) be led by the faculty. Some teachers have shown
the way on how this can be done.
3) The CA to student ratio has to be 5 to 1.
Clearly the student:CA ratio needs to be reduced significantly. ...but did you mean
students:CA 5:1 or 1:5?
Anything more seems to non-workable. Online
Ambassadors/mentors are not handholders and error correctors. I signed up to be an online
ambassador. But stopped reading the IEP mails that were sent to me after i realised, that
the IEP program essentially wanted to me to do the students' work.
That's one way of looking at it. Another way would be that an editor (in this case
who happened to be a student) contributed content to an article. It would (almost
routinely) reviewed by other editors who coudl/would improve it or point out issues. One
of the aspects that the better students have fed back to us is the value of the
collaboration with the global editing community.
hisham